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Interesting Trend in Miles Hires

Posted on 12/3/09 at 7:57 am
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 7:57 am
Got to thinking about all our coordinator hires, and every one has been a guy either out of a job or "on the way out."

Pelini - on his way out of OU after a bad year
Crowton - on his way out of Oregon after a bad year
Chavis - fired with Fulmer


Doesn't mean they were all bad hires, just an interesting trend I noticed.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 7:59 am to
I would venture to say that that is how most hires are...people doing well tend to stay put, because of loyalty or more importantly more money is thrown at them to stay.


I don't have facts to back this up it is just what i would assume
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 8:00 am to
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I would venture to say that that is how most hires are...people doing well tend to stay put, because of loyalty or more importantly more money is thrown at them to stay.




It is unless people get creative and hire someone from a smaller school.
Posted by dutchtowntiger100
dutchtown
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 8:26 am to
I would say Pelini turned the LSU gig into a nice job at Nebraska and has them in the Big 12 title game
Posted by amiznit
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 8:34 am to
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Pelini - on his way out of OU after a bad year

I don't know that I'd classify Pelini as "on his way out of OU". I think he was definitely going to leave as he wanted to be the sole DC (remember he was co-DC with Venables under a defensive coach), but I bet that if he wanted to stay there, he could've. He was a good hire. A good hire that probably wasn't solely Miles' decision.

I was never a fan of the Crowton hire, but I agree that he seemed he was on his way out too. LSU pretty much saved Oregon from having to fire him.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 8:36 am to
Yes, Pelini is a washed up retread. What was Miles thinking?

He also wasn't on his way out, except by choice.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 8:42 am to
usually, asst coaches are hired that are available. also, forking up the dough for buy-outs for asst. coaches is not a common practice because of the cost involved. there is not that big of a "taint" on fired asst coaches because many are fired when their HC is fired and many are fired as "sacrificial lambs" when fan bases demand the HC do something to improve their team.
Posted by OregonTiger
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:54 am to
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Crowton - on his way out of Oregon after a bad year


Bad information there, Crowton was loved here by the fans and not going anywhere until LSU showed him the money. Money, cures all ailments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:56 am to
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Crowton was loved here by the fans

not what i've been told
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 10:58 am to
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Doesn't mean they were all bad hires, just an interesting trend I noticed.





So Weiss will be our next OC?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:16 am to
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So Weiss will be our next OC?

not a lateral move
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:19 am to
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not a lateral move

Considering his hands off approach to his defense. . .


Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:20 am to
I disagree completely with your logic. Pellini was a great hire, Crowton was not in disfavor, and Chavis had many, many options when the entire staff got washed out with Fulmer. On paper, 3 good hires-- Crowton has not developed an offensive identity and needs to go.
Posted by BayouTigers4Life
Chi-town
Member since Dec 2004
7047 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:28 am to
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Oregon State Fan


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Crowton was loved here by the fans


Explains it
Same way Bama and Fla fans love Miles being at LSU.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:39 am to
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Got to thinking about all our coordinator hires, and every one has been a guy either out of a job or "on the way out." Pelini - on his way out of OU after a bad year Crowton - on his way out of Oregon after a bad year Chavis - fired with Fulmer Doesn't mean they were all bad hires, just an interesting trend I noticed.


You're conveniently leaving out our Co D coordinators from last year. Bad hires, but blows your trend theory out of the water.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 6:22 pm to
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You're conveniently leaving out our Co D coordinators from last year. Bad hires, but blows your trend theory out of the water.


That's the exception, not the rule.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 6:24 pm to
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Yes, Pelini is a washed up retread. What was Miles thinking?

He also wasn't on his way out, except by choice.


I didn't say he was washed up or a bad hire.

But the fact is, OU's defense under his watch that year was below their standards. It was pretty well known that there was some serious discontent with him.

But Pelini also probably wanted to get a sole DC job.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 6:29 pm to
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Chavis - fired with Fulmer
You sure about that?
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 6:33 pm to
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You sure about that?



Well, perhaps not outright fired, but it appears the AD gave Kiffin the power to make coaching decisions and Kiffin opted not to retain him.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11368 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 7:03 pm to
He says he had no desire to be there after they fired Fulmer. It may have been mutual and beneficial for both to walk away, but I wouldnt characterize it as him being "fired".
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