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re: I'm pro-Riley, but a lot of coaches could do what he has done at Oklahoma

Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Jackassistan
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Bjorn Cyborg
I am not a Riley fanboy but this was a bad take...we have seen too many times a coach gifted a good program and it does sideways on him. Riley has done well to keep it going. That said, his ability to get 11 or 12 wins will be severely challenged in the SEC
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:12 pm to
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Crediting a coach for individual player awards is bullshite.


In O’s case where it was a one time thing you have a point. Riley turned a freaking walk-on into a heisman winning NFL caliber QB. He did the same with a backup transfer QB that couldn’t make it at A&M. Lastly, he took a backup Bama game manager run first QB and now he’s a starting NFL QB.

get your head out of your arse.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 9:58 am to
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we have seen too many times a coach gifted a good program and it does sideways on him


Have we? Because that opportunity rarely happens.

Elite jobs almost never come open when the program is on top. Coaches usually drift into mediocrity and get fired/forced into retirement or leave the program in NCAA trouble. A coach leaving the program in elite condition is extremely rare.

It's happened the following times in the last 20 or so years:

LSU: Saban to Miles (maintained)
Florida: Spurrier to Zook (failed)
Miami: Davis to Coker (ultimately failed, but did great for 3 years, won a title and made another NC game)
Florida: Meyer to Muschamp (failed)
Ohio State: Meyer to Day (maintained)
Oklahoma: Stoops to Riley (maintained)
Florida State: Bowden to Jimbo (maintained)

There may be some examples I'm forgetting.


I would say the track record of maintaining the program when handed an elite program on top is extremely good.





This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 10:18 am
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