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re: I'm fine if Baker leaves.

Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:01 am to
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Oh we're doing averages now?


What do you want to go off of?? How else are you supposed to judge a team? I'm going off of stats and how I saw them perform. You haven't even debated any of the points other than "DURRR YOU'RE GOING OFF AVERAGES DURRR"

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Good thing there are more than 3 games in a season, huh?


Yeah it's a good thing Baker was playing offenses ranked 86th, 91st, 104th, 107th and Southeastern to really help your case. Otherwise, we would probably be having a different conversation.

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How'd other teams do against those teams? And do we factor in the team basically quitting on bitch boy BK?


I mean I don't really know how you evaluate how good someone is unless you see how they go up against the best teams?? I'll give you Alabama, but Oklahoma is absolute dog shite on offense.

So he played well against one semi-good offensive team and was outplayed and out schemed in the other four games?

Even WKU had 2 TDs where guys were wide open and dropped the ball that would've probably changed the outcome of the game.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:03 am to
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I'm going off of stats and how I saw them perform.


No, you're only going off carefully selected stats to try to paint the picture you want.
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Yeah it's a good thing Baker was playing offenses ranked 86th, 91st, 104th, 107th and Southeastern to really help your case. Otherwise, we would probably be having a different conversation.


Every other team plays a full schedule. So you're not making much of a point here.
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I mean I don't really know how you evaluate how good someone is unless you see how they go up against the best teams??


Against the best teams, we did better than most, holding them well below their seasonal averages. And that was without Weeks and without a complimentary offense. What fricking more would you like?
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:04 am to
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Remind me of our SOS again.


So now we're doing SOS now

Again, I'll give you Alabama even though they aren't world beaters on offense by any means. I will not give you Oklahoma. They are dogshit on offense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:06 am to
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So now we're doing SOS now



Sorry the facts don't line up with your bullshite take on Baker.
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Again, I'll give you Alabama even though they aren't world beaters on offense by any means. I will not give you Oklahoma. They are dogshit on offense.


I don't really care what you'll give. Your opinion is more dogshit than any offense we faced.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:06 am to
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They were top 25 in total defense, but how much of that is due to the majority of the offenses that we played?


How is that different from any other team? Do you really think everyone else was playing top offenses every time out? You say they didn’t play well against Ole Miss, but let’s compare. Oklahoma is a Top 10 defense but they gave up 34 points and 431 yards at home to Ole Miss. Georgia gave up 35 points at home and they are Top 15. LSU held them to their lowest point total of the season.

Yes, Vanderbilt and A&M were ugly. They also were without Whit Weeks for both games and Gooden against Vandy. That took away the heart of their rush defense. It was obvious that they just gave up in the second half against A&M with all the negativity surrounding the program. Your expectations for consistency and performance against top offenses is just unrealistic and taken completely out of context.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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You do realize that against Ole Miss, Vandy and A&M we gave up 480,399 and 426 total yards, respectively? Allowing them to convert third downs 54% of the time?


1) What was the TOP in those games? Sure, some of that is us not getting off the field, but most of that is because our offense couldn’t stay on the field for shite.

2) Yards is a terrible way to judge a DC, especially one with an aggressive philosophy.
You’re gonna give up some big plays occasionally. You’re also going to make some big plays that cause some turnovers, and we had a bunch this year. Which is incredible considering how bad we were with getting pressure from our front 4. And even when we did, they just couldn’t finish. So Baker had to gamble even more with some of blitzes. Great when they work, but if you don’t get home, it’s eventually going to expose you.

The Gabe Reliford injury was devastating. As was the Whit Weeks injury. That defense we ran out against Clemson was a top 5 defense in the country. We just didn’t have the depth to sustain those injuries. Which was on Kelly and whoever else was responsible for the roster, not Blake who was only in his 2nd year here.

3) We may hire a great DC who, if he stays for a while, might be the better long-term option. But it’s definitely gonna hurt the ‘26 team, who would have Blake and probably most of the defensive staff in their 3rd year here than their 1st. Lane is looking to have long-term success, so it may work out for the best. Especially if Blake only stayed 1 more season and left. If he’s not staying for at least 2 or 3 more years, this is probably the best year for him to move on. It’s possible, but the chances of Lane putting together a championship caliber roster in his 1st season was/is always going to be a long-shot. He would/will have to absolutely crush the portal and not have any misses. ‘27 is the more reasonable season to actually have a real chance to win the whole thing. Making the playoffs in year would should be considered a huge success.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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How is that different from any other team?



you won't get an answer for that Every other team only plays top 20 offenses apparently
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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I'm just not sure I would throw a bunch of money at him to beg him to stay.


I think he is a great coach and did a very good job with the defense this year. Him staying would also go a long way to having some sort of continuity on defense. I do think that Kiffin could replace him with another quality coach but there is a reason LSU is trying to keep him.
Posted by Wolfcola
Member since Nov 2025
612 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:09 am to
Yeah the white knighting for Baker is getting ridiculous

Yeah he’s good but he’s not elite

The 3 good offenses we played this year, Baker got Schooled
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:10 am to
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Yeah the white knighting for Baker is getting ridiculous

Yeah he’s good but he’s not elite

The 3 good offenses we played this year, Baker got Schooled


Another dumbass enters the chat
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
327 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:12 am to
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No, you're only going off carefully selected stats to try to paint the picture you want.


How, those are the 3 best offenses we played. Period, end of sentence. The other offense that we played that is ranked 53rd is Alabama, and we played well against them. I told you I would give you that.

I wouldn't call playing poorly in 3 of 4 games that actually matter something to celebrate.

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Every other team plays a full schedule. So you're not making much of a point here.


Why would we care how we perform against WKU, LaTech and Southeastern?? I care about how we perform against good competition.

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Against the best teams, we did better than most, holding them well below their seasonal averages. And that was without Weeks and without a complimentary offense. What fricking more would you like?


How about learning how to stop a running/dual threat QB?? How about not allowing those opponents to convert more than 50% of their third downs and get off the field?? How about not allowing them to score more than 50% of the time??

Whit Weeks is a fine player, but he's not some gamechanger like Lawrence Taylor that people make him out to be. Would they have gotten a few more stops?? Probably, but it would've been basically the same result.





Posted by Wolfcola
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:12 am to
Vandy scored 45. Could’ve had over 50 if they don’t kneel the ball at 2

A&M scored 49

Ole Miss would’ve easily had 30 if they don’t fumble at the 1 yard line
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:14 am to
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How, those are the 3 best offenses we played. Period, end of sentence.


There's no words

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Why would we care how we perform against WKU, LaTech and Southeastern?? I care about how we perform against good competition.


Then only look at how everyone else did against only good teams. You're not doing that though
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How about learning how to stop a running/dual threat QB?? How about not allowing those opponents to convert more than 50% of their third downs and get off the field?? How about not allowing them to score more than 50% of the time??



More cherry picking
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:14 am to
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Vandy scored 45. Could’ve had over 50 if they don’t kneel the ball at 2

A&M scored 49

Ole Miss would’ve easily had 30 if they don’t fumble at the 1 yard line


They all also could have lost the games if we are just inventing scenarios
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12611 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:15 am to
Kirby Smart is a pretty damn good Defensive mind in the sport and he struggled with Tenn and Ole Miss this year in getting stops. Thats just the sport now. Everything favors the offense it is very difficult to field an elite defense every game. Especially with the offense we had paired with him this year. Our offense did not help by continuously going 3 & out and putting the defense back on the field quickly.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4931 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:16 am to
LSU D was avg against the teams that were highly ranked.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9928 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:16 am to
I would have loved to see Baker's Defense with a potent Offense, but alas, the man needs to look to his future and family's good fortune. Congrats to him and hoping he has a very successful future.

Now Lane needs to get a DC better than him!
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88664 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:17 am to
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LSU D was avg against the teams that were highly ranked.


You realize looking "average" against elite offenses is actually good right?
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
327 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:18 am to
So what? They sucked in the second half too.

It was probably competitive because there was still a whole half left of football for them to continue to score and pile on more points.

You do realize that A&M had another drive in the 2nd quarter where they marched down the field and threw a pick at the 3 yard line, right? I guess you can call that a stop.

Probably should've been 56-25 or 53-25 final score.
Posted by Wolfcola
Member since Nov 2025
612 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:18 am to
Yep. And with Baker, it always seems like there is 1 huge blown coverage

Yeah we were clamping Oklahoma and could’ve won until the inevitable huge blown coverage struck AGAIN
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 9:19 am
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