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If Rich Rod is fired (with cause) in the next week, do...
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:13 am
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:13 am
you think Coach Miles will take the Michigan job if offered?
This is just a question. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, that such a move is predicated on whether LSU beats or loses to ArKansas tonight and/or in whatever bowl game in which we play.
After reading a great piece (linked on TD.com's home page, I believe) and a few others, Mich. has the opportunity to not have to pay RR's full deal if it can "show cause." This stems from the pre-season alleged practice-time violations, and the lack of records regarding the charges is enough to meet that legal standard.
Now, Mich. would settle w/RR and ASAP (and they don't have to wait for the 2-A's ruling), but not be bound to pay the full amount in his contract. I know what Miles' buy-out is, and that he also would owe a modest payment to LSU if he goes to Mich., but these deals can be settled for much less (esp. if he takes another job).
We can rant until the sun explodes about how Miles' reputation has erroded, his SEC record getting worse, questionable DC and OC hires and other matters, but I doubt there are too many folks here that don't know he covets going back to Mich. at some point, even if he also loves LSU. But if RR is let go soon--maybe next week--Miles won't have the luxury of waiting to make a decision close to or after LSU's bowl game.
Bottom line: Do you think Miles would let an opportunity (he's still considered the best "Michigan Man" up there) pass by again, knowing he'd have to wait another 3-5 years or more, with no guarantee he'd be offered that job in the future?
This is just a question. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, that such a move is predicated on whether LSU beats or loses to ArKansas tonight and/or in whatever bowl game in which we play.
After reading a great piece (linked on TD.com's home page, I believe) and a few others, Mich. has the opportunity to not have to pay RR's full deal if it can "show cause." This stems from the pre-season alleged practice-time violations, and the lack of records regarding the charges is enough to meet that legal standard.
Now, Mich. would settle w/RR and ASAP (and they don't have to wait for the 2-A's ruling), but not be bound to pay the full amount in his contract. I know what Miles' buy-out is, and that he also would owe a modest payment to LSU if he goes to Mich., but these deals can be settled for much less (esp. if he takes another job).
We can rant until the sun explodes about how Miles' reputation has erroded, his SEC record getting worse, questionable DC and OC hires and other matters, but I doubt there are too many folks here that don't know he covets going back to Mich. at some point, even if he also loves LSU. But if RR is let go soon--maybe next week--Miles won't have the luxury of waiting to make a decision close to or after LSU's bowl game.
Bottom line: Do you think Miles would let an opportunity (he's still considered the best "Michigan Man" up there) pass by again, knowing he'd have to wait another 3-5 years or more, with no guarantee he'd be offered that job in the future?
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/28/09 at 7:42 am to johnsec
Did you watch the Ole Miss game? Do you want a guy with 30 yrs of coaching experience to respond like that when they are under pressure? Even if they got rid of RR, which I don't think they will, I highly doubt they would want Miles. My biggest reason is b/c they have outgoing AD. I think this would mean that Lloyd Carr would have a big say on who the next coach is, and I don't think Miles would get Carr's vote to lead UM.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 8:10 am to guttata
From what I've "heard", and no it's not a reliable source. Carr can't stand Miles...Don't know if it's true or not?
Posted on 11/28/09 at 8:57 am to TreyE663
all the guys who want miles gone better pray he coaches lsu to a win over AR-kansas. 9-3 looks pretty good on paper and makes les' whole record at LSU shine a bit more. a loss, IMO, makes us look like a program in decline over the past 2 years. who would want him?
yeah, you could rightly point out how could one game make much difference?
can't explain it to you, but just looking at it it looks a LOT different!
yeah, you could rightly point out how could one game make much difference?
can't explain it to you, but just looking at it it looks a LOT different!
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:26 am to johnsec
Rich Rod wont be fired this year. Next year he will, but this year is already out of the question.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:34 am to johnsec
Les Miles blew it during the Ole Miss game. No one at Michigan wants him anymore.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:59 am to guttata
quote:
Did you watch the Ole Miss game?...
Yes, I've attended all but 3 LSU games in almost three seasons. However, I started this thread to find out what you thought, not me. Thanks.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:01 pm to johnsec
I think Miles would be a top 3 guy for them. He is a Michigan guy and I think he would be successful there.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:13 pm to TreyE663
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...Carr can't stand Miles...Don't know if it's true or not?
You're right. The two beat-writers I know up there have said Carr pretty much hates Miles and that he strongly opposed Miles replacing him in '07. Martin, though, is the one whom Miles' backers (and there are a lot of them) blame for Mich. not getting Miles & hiring RR.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:48 pm to Champion
quote:
Les Miles blew it during the Ole Miss game. No one at Michigan wants him anymore.
This.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:55 pm to tylercsbn9
You have to think that if the Meechigan peeps aren't happy with RR (and Carr's backing of RR) that his non-support of Miles would now be essentially worthless.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:09 pm to ehidal1
i still don't understand how they run off Lloyd Carr, and then the person that everyone assumes they rely on for coach hiring advice is Carr.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:24 pm to hashtag
If we want Michigan to hire Miles, we need to get them to hire Joe Dean to be their AD.
And before you say Joe Dean didn't hire Miles, duh.
But anyone who would hire a coach who lost his last game 65-0 (DiNardo) wouldn't blink at hiring Miles after Ole Miss.
And before you say Joe Dean didn't hire Miles, duh.
But anyone who would hire a coach who lost his last game 65-0 (DiNardo) wouldn't blink at hiring Miles after Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:29 pm to hashtag
For slackhouse: Is it true that Carr, who has one of those velvet coffin jobs since he retired as HC, hardly ever visits his on-campus office?
And RR blamed Carr (and everyone but himself) for Michigan's failures and decline at his post-game news conference this week. Not good, unless you want to get sacked.
And RR blamed Carr (and everyone but himself) for Michigan's failures and decline at his post-game news conference this week. Not good, unless you want to get sacked.
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:25 pm to hashtag
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i still don't understand how they run off Lloyd Carr, and then the person that everyone assumes they rely on for coach hiring advice is Carr.
I can't understand how you've been a member here "since Aug 1905 AND since Aug 2005."
Seriously, Martin being lame-duck (and bullying Mich. students in the stadium) has a lot to do with it.
Posted on 11/30/09 at 7:08 am to johnsec
The interesting thing is that OU's AD is in line to be the next AD, which is one reason people give for Stoops wanting to leave OU. Stoops to UM?
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