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If Rich Rod is fired (with cause) in the next week, do...

Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:13 am
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:13 am
you think Coach Miles will take the Michigan job if offered?

This is just a question. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't, that such a move is predicated on whether LSU beats or loses to ArKansas tonight and/or in whatever bowl game in which we play.

After reading a great piece (linked on TD.com's home page, I believe) and a few others, Mich. has the opportunity to not have to pay RR's full deal if it can "show cause." This stems from the pre-season alleged practice-time violations, and the lack of records regarding the charges is enough to meet that legal standard.

Now, Mich. would settle w/RR and ASAP (and they don't have to wait for the 2-A's ruling), but not be bound to pay the full amount in his contract. I know what Miles' buy-out is, and that he also would owe a modest payment to LSU if he goes to Mich., but these deals can be settled for much less (esp. if he takes another job).

We can rant until the sun explodes about how Miles' reputation has erroded, his SEC record getting worse, questionable DC and OC hires and other matters, but I doubt there are too many folks here that don't know he covets going back to Mich. at some point, even if he also loves LSU. But if RR is let go soon--maybe next week--Miles won't have the luxury of waiting to make a decision close to or after LSU's bowl game.

Bottom line: Do you think Miles would let an opportunity (he's still considered the best "Michigan Man" up there) pass by again, knowing he'd have to wait another 3-5 years or more, with no guarantee he'd be offered that job in the future?
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 12:19 pm
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 7:42 am to
Did you watch the Ole Miss game? Do you want a guy with 30 yrs of coaching experience to respond like that when they are under pressure? Even if they got rid of RR, which I don't think they will, I highly doubt they would want Miles. My biggest reason is b/c they have outgoing AD. I think this would mean that Lloyd Carr would have a big say on who the next coach is, and I don't think Miles would get Carr's vote to lead UM.
Posted by TreyE663
Walker
Member since Nov 2007
955 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 8:10 am to
From what I've "heard", and no it's not a reliable source. Carr can't stand Miles...Don't know if it's true or not?
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6506 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 8:57 am to
all the guys who want miles gone better pray he coaches lsu to a win over AR-kansas. 9-3 looks pretty good on paper and makes les' whole record at LSU shine a bit more. a loss, IMO, makes us look like a program in decline over the past 2 years. who would want him?

yeah, you could rightly point out how could one game make much difference?

can't explain it to you, but just looking at it it looks a LOT different!
This post was edited on 11/28/09 at 8:58 am
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 10:26 am to
Rich Rod wont be fired this year. Next year he will, but this year is already out of the question.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:20 am to
YES
Posted by Champion
South Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
96 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:34 am to
Les Miles blew it during the Ole Miss game. No one at Michigan wants him anymore.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Did you watch the Ole Miss game?...

Yes, I've attended all but 3 LSU games in almost three seasons. However, I started this thread to find out what you thought, not me. Thanks.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37340 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:01 pm to
I think Miles would be a top 3 guy for them. He is a Michigan guy and I think he would be successful there.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

...Carr can't stand Miles...Don't know if it's true or not?

You're right. The two beat-writers I know up there have said Carr pretty much hates Miles and that he strongly opposed Miles replacing him in '07. Martin, though, is the one whom Miles' backers (and there are a lot of them) blame for Mich. not getting Miles & hiring RR.
Posted by DB2
Member since Jan 2008
1126 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Les Miles blew it during the Ole Miss game. No one at Michigan wants him anymore.

This.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67261 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:49 pm to
I hope so
Posted by Proejo
Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
5889 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 12:55 pm to
You have to think that if the Meechigan peeps aren't happy with RR (and Carr's backing of RR) that his non-support of Miles would now be essentially worthless.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33918 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:09 pm to
i still don't understand how they run off Lloyd Carr, and then the person that everyone assumes they rely on for coach hiring advice is Carr.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4968 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 1:24 pm to
If we want Michigan to hire Miles, we need to get them to hire Joe Dean to be their AD.

And before you say Joe Dean didn't hire Miles, duh.

But anyone who would hire a coach who lost his last game 65-0 (DiNardo) wouldn't blink at hiring Miles after Ole Miss.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 2:29 pm to
For slackhouse: Is it true that Carr, who has one of those velvet coffin jobs since he retired as HC, hardly ever visits his on-campus office?

And RR blamed Carr (and everyone but himself) for Michigan's failures and decline at his post-game news conference this week. Not good, unless you want to get sacked.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/28/09 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

i still don't understand how they run off Lloyd Carr, and then the person that everyone assumes they rely on for coach hiring advice is Carr.

I can't understand how you've been a member here "since Aug 1905 AND since Aug 2005."

Seriously, Martin being lame-duck (and bullying Mich. students in the stadium) has a lot to do with it.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 7:08 am to
The interesting thing is that OU's AD is in line to be the next AD, which is one reason people give for Stoops wanting to leave OU. Stoops to UM?
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