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re: IF LSU had the Luxury of Hiring a HC this year....
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:42 pm to Chitter Chatter
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:42 pm to Chitter Chatter
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What's so great about JDR? I like him.. the wearing of the tie and jacket on the sidelines; decent coach. But what's the fascination with him here?
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I agree. This is one of the mysteries of the modern universe. The man's resume is no better than 25 other NFL HCs and worse than quite a few. And he has no college coaching experience. Not just HC experience --- no college experience at all. I know he has some La connections but this is nuts.
I cannot think of one coach who jumped from the pros to a major college HC job who succeeded who had not already spent significant time in college before he went to the pros. Not one.
I think it would take 1 season before negatigers turned on JDR. If that.
What's so great about JDR? I like him.. the wearing of the tie and jacket on the sidelines; decent coach. But what's the fascination with him here?
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I agree. This is one of the mysteries of the modern universe. The man's resume is no better than 25 other NFL HCs and worse than quite a few. And he has no college coaching experience. Not just HC experience --- no college experience at all. I know he has some La connections but this is nuts.
I cannot think of one coach who jumped from the pros to a major college HC job who succeeded who had not already spent significant time in college before he went to the pros. Not one.
I think it would take 1 season before negatigers turned on JDR. If that.
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:46 pm to Chitter Chatter
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What's so great about JDR? I like him.. the wearing of the tie and jacket on the sidelines; decent coach. But what's the fascination with him here?
I've asked this question several times, and never got a straight answer; other than his daughter supposedly went to LSU, or some shite like that.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:49 pm to fishngrits
Are you asking about his connection to LSU/Louisiana?
His wife is from Lafayette. He had one step daughter graduate from LSU, and another that is currently a student here. As recently as 3-4 years ago he still had a condo in NOLA, not sure if he still does.
His wife is from Lafayette. He had one step daughter graduate from LSU, and another that is currently a student here. As recently as 3-4 years ago he still had a condo in NOLA, not sure if he still does.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:53 pm to Cash
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Are you asking about his connection to LSU/Louisiana?
Not really asking about it, so much as saying it's the only reason I've ever gotten for JDR to be LSU's head coach. None of those reasons make him the best candidate.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:57 pm to specs1
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IF AD, I'd make Shannahan, Cowher, and Jimmy Johnson say no first. Obviously those would be long shots to say the least.
Why not throw Meyer, Saban, and Bear Bryant in your list.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:59 pm to fishngrits
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Not really asking about it, so much as saying it's the only reason I've ever gotten for JDR to be LSU's head coach. None of those reasons make him the best candidate.
How about any of these?
under 50 years old, over 40
playing career
-all american defensive player at a current BCS school
-10 plus year NFL career with one pro bowl
assistant coach career
-while a DC considered one of the best in the NFL
-one Super Bowl Championship ring
NFL HC career
-over five years as a NFL HC
-winning career record
-multiple play off appearances
Miscell.
-favors an aggresive defense and a balanced pro-style offense
-personable, well spoken
-understands the clock rules
-manly good looks that rival an older Houston Bates
Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:00 pm to Macavity92
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I cannot think of one coach who jumped from the pros to a major college HC job who succeeded who had not already spent significant time in college before he went to the pros. Not one.
what wouldn't he be able to do at the college level because he was never a GA at Valdosta in 1986? Run booster luncheons?
Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:02 pm to Maximus
how ever would he seal the deal on the recruits Frank and Rodney Garner were working on?
Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:07 pm to ATLTiger
It's a valid point. Clearly Pete Carroll's experience at NC State and Pacific in the early 80's are the key to USC's run from 2001-2008.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:24 pm to specs1
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I'd really like to have the JJ of 20 years ago
Imagine that, we would have been watching 30 for 30 LSU instead of Miami. This kinda makes me teary eyed.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 7:50 pm to Cash
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How about any of these?
under 50 years old, over 40
playing career
-all american defensive player at a current BCS school
-10 plus year NFL career with one pro bowl
assistant coach career
-while a DC considered one of the best in the NFL
-one Super Bowl Championship ring
NFL HC career
-over five years as a NFL HC
-winning career record
-multiple play off appearances
Miscell.
-favors an aggresive defense and a balanced pro-style offense
-personable, well spoken
-understands the clock rules
-manly good looks that rival an older Houston Bates
It's decent, but not jaw dropping. Some of it is just plain laughable, like the miscellaneous stuff.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:16 pm to wahoocs
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I think Patterson signed through 2016 for 2 per.
I have no idea about any buyout clauses, but his projected salary would still be far less than Miles' buyout, FWIW.
He would have to consider it, if only to sweeten his deal with TCU. But, none of this is happening this year, anyway.
No buyout clause.
No settlement terms, just in case.
No out schools.
Yes, the money to the tune of $15 mil through 2016 is guaranteed even if Coach Patterson is fired in a week. And if Texas, Texas A&M, Notre Dame or Arizona State calls in 10 days or 10 weeks or 10 months or four years, they will not have to pay a penny to the Horned Frogs to lure Patterson away.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:31 pm to Cash
Turner Gill...coaching prodigy
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:14 pm to Maximus
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what wouldn't he be able to do at the college level because he was never a GA at Valdosta in 1986? Run booster luncheons?
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Recruit. Relate to and teach 18 year olds. Recruit. And Recruit.
what wouldn't he be able to do at the college level because he was never a GA at Valdosta in 1986? Run booster luncheons?
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Recruit. Relate to and teach 18 year olds. Recruit. And Recruit.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:21 pm to fishngrits
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Some of it is just plain laughable, like the miscellaneous stuff.
ya think
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:24 pm to Cash
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ya think
Obviously, but I wonder about some of the other folks.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:27 pm to fishngrits
Gary Patterson would definitely be high on the list I'd hope.
Al Golden is a really good coach as well. Kind of an unknown at this point but he's worked an absolute miracle at Temple so far.
Al Golden is a really good coach as well. Kind of an unknown at this point but he's worked an absolute miracle at Temple so far.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:46 pm to TigerBait45
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Al Golden is a really good coach as well.
In five years he will be considered a top 10 national coach.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:47 pm to Cash
I think so too. I mean he's got Temple running at a pretty high level..that's not possible.
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