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re: If Herman is in, Aranda is likely out

Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:04 pm to
I'm sure all of hermans assistants were his top choices. UH giving him blank checks and all

Why do you think coaches run to schools that put more resources into football

Their DC made 500 last year, and their OC (major applewhite) made 300.
We pay almost double those combined salaries on both OC, and on DC.
800k vs almost 3 million dollar budget on Coordinators.

Herman didn't have aranda at UH not because he didn't want him, he couldn't afford him
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21543 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:04 pm to
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he learned to coach defense under.

...drum roll...

Aranda


Where/when did this happen?
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:07 pm to
my source told me there is a connection between Aranda and Herman, I believe he mentioned them being roommates.
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:08 pm to
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Why wouldnt Herman want to keep one of the top DCs in the league?


Obviously the DC that helped Herman accomplish the wins at UH and become one of the hot commodities would garner serious consideration.

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This post is pretty delusional considering they were roomates at one point.


Right because guys that have an opportunity to win 23 to 25 in a two year span would never even think about bringing members of the current staff with them, right?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31666 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:12 pm to
Even if he does, Todd Orlando is an excellent DC. Not much of a drop, and he actually played at Wisconsin and followed Aranda as the DC at Utah State. His defenses are always Top 15 nationally in yards against.

Todd Orlando:

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In his first year as defensive coordinator, UConn led the BIG EAST in total defense in 2006, ranking seventh in the nation. The team's 297.1 yards per game average for total defense was the program's best since 1979. His second season, 2007, saw UConn claim the BIG EAST Championship behind the nation's 10th-ranked passing efficiency defense and the 14th best scoring defense at 19.0 points allowed per game


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In 2008, the UConn defense was ranked sixth in the country and among the national leaders in most major categories - including ninth in passing defense, 15th in interceptions and 22nd in scoring defense



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During his first season at Utah State, Orlando's Aggie defense ranked first in the Mountain West and seventh in the nation in scoring allowing just 17.1 points per game, the second-fewest allowed by an Aggie defense since 1971. USU also ranked first in the Mountain West and eighth in the nation in rushing defense (106.7 ypg), its fewest allowed since 1968, first in the Mountain West and 12th in the nation in total defense (330.9 ypg), and first in the Mountain West and 15th in the nation in passing efficiency defense (113.2).


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• In Orlando's two seasons at Utah State, the Aggies defense ranked among the nation's best in scoring defense (12th nationally in 2014 at 19.7 points per game, seventh nationally in 2013 at 17.1 points per game) and turnovers forced with 59 over two seasons, the nation's eighth-best two-year total, ranking 10th nationally in 2014 with 30 turnovers


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His attacking defense was fourth nationally with 49 sacks on the year and second nationally with 114 tackles for loss in 2014 as Utah State advanced to back-to-to-back bowl games during Orlando's stay in Logan, Utah.



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• Utah State's defense finished the 2013 season holding five of its final seven opponents to 14 or fewer points and did not give up more than 24 points in its last seven games, while its 14 points allowed to No. 24 Northern Illinois in the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl was a USU bowl game record. USU also played in back-to-back-to-back bowl games for the first time in school history and won just its third bowl game ever in 2013. Utah State was also the only team in the nation not to allow a touchdown run of 10 or more yards in 2013, and allowed just two 100-yard rushers, while limiting its opponents to just 13 points following 16 turnovers.


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• In Orlando's first season at Houston, his opportunistic and attacking defense forced 12 teams below their scoring average with the two teams eclipsing their average, doing so by less than one point. The defense led the nation with 35 takeaways while ranking eighth nationally in rushing defense (108.9 yards per game) and 20th nationally in scoring defense (20.7 points per game




This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted by BengalsLivesMatter
Houston
Member since Aug 2016
580 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:15 pm to
This board is well informed.
Posted by CALIGUMBEAUX
Huntington Beach
Member since Jul 2015
211 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:21 pm to
I think the two up votes are from people with fat fingers.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:40 pm to
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there is no way he doesn't bring his DC with him


There is if Orlando is the next HC of Houston.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:50 pm to
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and turnovers forced with 59 over two seasons,


Is it just me, or is this not an absurd amount of TO's.....?
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56927 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:52 pm to
Or Houston just makes the DC the new head coach
Posted by zoom
432
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:55 pm to
Came to downvote gfys
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56927 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:57 pm to
And also just for the record, I wouldn't be too upset about Orlando coming in as DC. Love his agressive style defense. Remind me of the saints D when they won the super bowl. They create turnovers
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29392 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 1:12 am to
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Could he be offered the UH HC position


After having Art Briles, Kevin Sumlin, and Tom Herman, I think Houston will stick to hiring offensive guys. That's what has made them good in stretches throughout history. Could be Applewhite, or even Kendal Briles. Maybe Tony Petersen can finally get him a HC gig.

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another HC/DC position?


LSU pays him 1.2 and he gets a 50k increase each year. There are only a handful paying that much, and you can bet your arse that LSU will pay more than that to keep him.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
10208 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 1:23 am to
These two together would be fricking assassins.

To your point, how do you know Herman wouldn't have gone after Aranda if Houston was willing to pay for a top dc? I'm sure he went out and got the best dc that UH was willing to pay for. Maybe, not exactly who Herman would have preferred if he had the option.
Posted by TommyDaTiger
Nawlins
Member since Dec 2015
11296 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:07 am to
Mulerider

U Smart
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30429 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:18 am to
150 downvotes for the OP.

I laugh because you guys actually think a top rated coach is going to come here and not bring his own people.

To some of you "room mates in college" equates to growing up together, marrying sisters in a joint wedding, and spending every vacation together plotting how they can someday coach the same team.

Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31666 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:24 am to
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it just me, or is this not an absurd amount of TO's.....?



In 2014, Orlando's defense had 30 turnovers, 49 sacks, and 114 TFL. Good lord, LSU would dominate with those numbers.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:38 am to
Wait.
So, Tom Herman and Herman Johnson formed Herman's Hermits and toured with Dave Aranda and Tony Orlando?
I'm confused.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
23414 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 7:53 am to
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only way I see Aranda staying is if Herman's DC takes the head job at Houston on his departure.


Aranda has a 3 yr $1.3 mil per year contract with no Miles clause. Just adds to the buyout.
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