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re: I just wish Canada stayed.

Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:08 am to
Canada is the guy who when boss man changes his job responsibilities goes running around the office telling everyone who will listen that ‘this wasn’t in the job description when I was hired” and stirring shite. Terrible for culture. Bad hire by O. But he had to go.
Posted by Abikaasa_Posti_Teel
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
2174 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:09 am to
It depends on what exactly "hurt" those feelings...which is the point of my first comment. If it was just a beef between coach O and Canada, I am with you...get over it and move on for the teams sake.
But if you continuously ran your mouth on more than one occasion, then it is insubordination... Like with any other job in the U.S.
How do some of you not see that??
Posted by TenthTiger
Member since Jan 2018
262 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:10 am to
Canada has a very short fuse. Thats his biggest flaw. Im not surprised that it got old working with him.

Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127782 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:16 am to
Yea because it would be nice to have Canada coach them up instead of the WW2 vets
Posted by Gemini17
Member since Feb 2014
71 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:18 am to
In terms of playcalling i'm actually glad I don't have to watch all that cheap presnap motion sickness bullshite. Just get it over with and give me Ensminger calling Cam Cameron's playbook. It was more effective and more exciting anyways. Our offense got worse this year under Canada
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:19 am to
No Way. Did you guys like Canada's offense and production. I didn't and it was a regression from 2016 after ensminger ook over. Secondly, Canada was a poison on the staff and locker room. From what I hear from a couple of reliable people I know, Aranda did not care for him, his offense, or his temperament either, and was part of the decision team that decided to let him go. I trust in Aranda.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1959 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:21 am to
Apparently when Canada was asked if he was going to be at LSU for a while by the recruits family (which is a legitimate question) he told them he was not. Somehow it has gotten construed into him negatively recruiting for LSU when he was just being honest. Id rather be known as an a-hole than a liar. Just my opinion though.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27510 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:23 am to
There are so many things wrong with what's going on at LSU. Canada being fired is but a symptom of the real issue: F. King and Alleva being in charge.

I was all for terminating Miles, but I can't believe we've gone from Miles/Cameron to Orgeron/Ensminger.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Did you guys like Canada's offense


Orgeron did when he hired him...right?

Or when Orgeron got credit for bringing in the hot OC name, was he given credit for someone else's hire that had been forced on him?

Or...was Canada great everywhere BUT here and only started to run this sucky offense when he got to BR and he essentially baited and switch poor Orgeron?

At some point, people have to admit that if you're going to trash Canada's system then it's either an indictment on Orgeron's ability to vet and hire quality candidates that mesh with "his system" or he was a figurehead and didn't make the hire.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:25 am to
He spoke truth to power and insecure Meddlin’ Ed couldn’t handle it.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30248 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Sounds like Canada wasn't working as hard as the rest of the staff, so maybe it's better off he's gone.


Anybody will quit giving a frick when their "boss" undermines them at every step of the way even though the boss isn't qualified at all to do the job.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79447 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:34 am to
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Anybody will quit giving a frick when their "boss" undermines them at every step of the way even though the boss isn't qualified at all to do the job.


Not a professional who knows he'll have to interview for a new job eventually.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6190 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:36 am to
Haven’t heard or read anything about where Canada might end up. Weird. That would mean nobody wants Miles, Canada, Orgeron, Ensminger, and Chavis is a joke. Yet all were and some still are coaches at LSU. WTF!!!
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Sounds like Canada wasn't working as hard as the rest of the staff, so maybe it's better off he's gone.

I guess he wasn't motivated by his boss and management. See, everything cuts both ways.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:37 am to
the shite you people come up with. They are BOTH at fault. O for hiring someone who can’t work with other people. And Canada for being the person who can’t work well with others. He’s gotten run off from damn near every job he had for the same reason. The blame on O is for hiring him in the first place. Canada was the same person here hat he was everywhere else. Impossible to work with.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12578 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:40 am to
This is from Gomila at ATVS:
quote:

Enter the Matt Canada fiasco — and that’s not a bad word to use. Basically, once the work became serious, Canada became a problem for virtually everybody in the LSU Ops Building to work with. Dave Aranda, in particular, very much wanted him gone. It wasn’t about philosophy or jet sweeps or motions so much as it was just a basic working relationship and trust. And while I’m not privy to any specific incidents, there was enough chronicled that LSU threatened to fire Canada for cause in order to reduce the buyout owed to him (with enough of a case that Canada would have likely had to sue to fight it, which he didn’t want to do).
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30248 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Not a professional who knows he'll have to interview for a new job eventually.


This doesn't really apply when your skillset is so rare in the marketplace.

Not to mention the fact that his behavior only occurred (that we know of...if you can even say we know that's how it happened in this case) in a small percentage (1 stop for 1 year to be exact) of the positions he's held in his career.

He'll be fine on his next interview. I'm sure that the potential employer will know all they need to know about this situation before they even sit him down.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Enter the Matt Canada fiasco — and that’s not a bad word to use. Basically, once the work became serious, Canada became a problem for virtually everybody in the LSU Ops Building to work with.

What a move by the head coach to bring in such a toxic coordinator.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30248 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

the shite you people come up with. They are BOTH at fault. O for hiring someone who can’t work with other people. And Canada for being the person who can’t work well with others. He’s gotten run off from damn near every job he had for the same reason. The blame on O is for hiring him in the first place. Canada was the same person here hat he was everywhere else. Impossible to work with.


That's a lot of hear say there.

However, if 100% of what you say is correct why the hell are Zero and Alleva still employed by LSU?

Also, if this was all a known issue with Canada why was 95% of the fanbase 100% ecstatic with his hire???
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

He’s gotten run off from damn near every job he had for the same reason.


And

yet

Orgeron

hired

him

anyway...

Sorry, but if you knowingly hire an a-hole you then don't get to act all surprised that the a-hole you hired started acting like an a-hole and then fire him early in his contract for assholery.

That would make you a fricking idiot.

Canada may very well be the biggest gaping a-hole on planet earth....but our HC hired him seemingly with this information wildly available. Canada being Canada is not Canada's fault.
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