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re: How good of a head coach is Kevin Sumlin, sans Case Keenum?
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:32 pm to wartiger2004
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:32 pm to wartiger2004
quote:lol
How good will Peterson be without Kellen Moore ?
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:38 pm to rocket31
Bill Belichick was an NFL coach for 6 seasons before he got Tom Brady. How many of those were winning seasons?
One
One
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:39 pm to rocket31
Case Keenum came from a 3A high school and Houston was the only college to offer him a scholarship. The only other schools that even looked at him were UTEP, Baylor and North Texas. He was ranked as a 2 star recruit by Rivals. Its not like he was some big time recruit.
Sumlin has just as much to do with Keenum's success as Keenum has to do with Sumlin.
Sumlin has just as much to do with Keenum's success as Keenum has to do with Sumlin.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:42 pm to Dr RC
FYI - Sumlin didn't recruit or originally coach Case.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:45 pm to Dr RC
Brett Favre was a late pickup too. Curley Hallman made him.
Posted on 12/10/11 at 12:48 pm to Lettuce22
doesnt really matter that Sumlin didn't recruit him.
He didn't even have to pick Case to run things. Case was not named the full time starter until Sumlin came in. He shared time his one year playing under Briles (was there for two but redshirted).
and
at exaggerating what I said. I didn't say Sumlin made Case. I said they both were important to eachothers success.
He didn't even have to pick Case to run things. Case was not named the full time starter until Sumlin came in. He shared time his one year playing under Briles (was there for two but redshirted).
and

This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 12/10/11 at 2:47 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
Petrino is a great example...he isn't all that great without a very good QB.
So Dick is what a good QB to LSU?



Posted on 12/10/11 at 3:38 pm to SPEEDY
Same was said about Leach at Tech. But he made those QBs like Sumlin has made Keenum.
Sumlin did great at OU as OC as well. His offense is of no concern. Who will be the DC is.
The more valid question is what is Briles without RG3?
Sumlin did great at OU as OC as well. His offense is of no concern. Who will be the DC is.
The more valid question is what is Briles without RG3?
Posted on 12/10/11 at 4:05 pm to 870Hog
quote:
Petrino is a great example...he isn't all that great without a very good QB.
So Dick is what a good QB to LSU?
Now we know 5-7 is a good year for Arky fans


Posted on 12/10/11 at 4:07 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
Petrino is a great example...he isn't all that great without a very good QB.
Ok. Go look at Casey Dick in year 1.
Also, Wilson wasn't a top recruit coming out of high school, he was just ok.
Petrino develops QB's, that's what he does dumbass
Posted on 12/10/11 at 4:08 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
alabama would be 14pts underdog against LSU without TR

Posted on 12/11/11 at 1:52 pm to SPEEDY
How good of a quarterback is Keenum, sans Sumlin?
Posted on 12/11/11 at 3:01 pm to Big Kat
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Same was said about Leach at Tech. But he made those QBs like Sumlin has made Keenum.
You realize Briles recruited/coached Keenum. He's been at Houston for six years.
You're getting a coach everyone assumes developed Keenum. That person is at Baylor.
Briles is a brilliant offensive mind. Before Keenum, he had Kevin Kolb. Now, he has RGIII.
Sumlin is an awful hire. A&M should have broken the bank and hired Briles.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 3:05 pm to H-Town Tiger
You do realize Petrino's ability to recruit and coach QB's a reason for his success correct?
Posted on 12/11/11 at 7:07 pm to Latarian
how good is coach Sumlin without Sam Bradford?
Posted on 12/11/11 at 8:03 pm to Latarian
quote:
You do realize Petrino's ability to recruit and coach QB's a reason for his success correct?
You do realize I was responding to a direct quote from an Arky fan correct?
Posted on 12/11/11 at 8:07 pm to tuptiger
quote:
You realize Briles recruited/coached Keenum.
Recruited him, yes, but Sumlin coached him for 4 years.
Was Urban Meyer a good hire for Florida? He did not recruit Alex Smith or for that matter Chris Leak.
Posted on 12/11/11 at 11:21 pm to SPEEDY
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I think we might have saw how good of a coach he really is last year when he didnt have Case Keenum at QB
That's what I've been saying.
Sumlin will be gone in three years at A + M. Many college presidents/athletic directors are naive and clueless. They just don't realize it takes much more than just being a "Great Recruiter

Posted on 12/11/11 at 11:25 pm to I Speak As I Please
quote:
That's what I've been saying.
Sumlin will be gone in three years at A + M. Many college presidents/athletic directors are naive and clueless. They just don't realize it takes much more than just being a "Great Recruiter " to be a successful head coach.
Who let this racist POS TigerBandAlumnus back?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:04 am to mattz1122
I think this is a bad move. The Ag alums around here are not happy.
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