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Hopefully we can add Billy Kennedy to the fired coaches roster soon
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:12 pm
That was not only pathetic, but was par for the course of his tenure.
Top that off with the best player he recruited (whose dad is one of the assistant coaches) being kicked off the team.
Top that off with the best player he recruited (whose dad is one of the assistant coaches) being kicked off the team.
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Awful hire in the first place. He coached in a one-bid league. You don't make that jump. Big conference schools hire from multiple bid mid-major leagues at the minimum.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
#pearl
#howland
#howland
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:36 am to WestCoastAg
Let's go for Pearl. We have nothing to lose. It literally couldn't be worse.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:46 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
#pearl
#howland
MELVIN WATKINS would be an upgrade at this point and that's saying something.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 3:53 pm to SwaggerCopter
When in the hell will fans(of all teams not just the faggies) realize it is REALLY hard to hire away from other major conferences. Id say Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, Indiana and UCLA are about the only basketball programs that can consistently hire away major coaches. Itll happen every once in a while but not often.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 4:23 pm to Ed Wuncler III
So its good that Pearl and howland arent coaching right now
Posted on 12/22/13 at 4:26 pm to WestCoastAg
Well theres 2 of the probably 20+ teams coaching vacancies filled at programs similar to A&M. Yall better fire soon
Posted on 12/22/13 at 5:58 pm to Ed Wuncler III
quote:
Yall better fire soon
Hey smartass..
You know there is a distinct possibility that our next coach hasn't even been fired yet.
Let's not get in too big of a rush.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 6:25 pm to Tridentds
I dont think you want a coach that got fired from another mediocre program.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 6:37 pm to Ed Wuncler III
quote:
When in the hell will fans(of all teams not just the faggies) realize it is REALLY hard to hire away from other major conferences.
I'm not saying major conferences. But why hire a coach who has to win the damn conference tournament just to make the tourney. It is a totally different league. You don't recognize 90% of the schools on Murray State's schedule.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 7:34 pm to SwaggerCopter
I mean theres those leauges and major conferences and that's about it. Theres not really in between I can think of honestly where its 2 or 3 small teams a year. I think its really hard to hire a good basketball coach compared to football is the problem. Pearl was at Wisconsin-Milwaukee before UT. A lot of small school coached strike out but sometimes you strike gold. Then Kentucky, UCLA or somebody hires them away.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 8:24 pm to Ed Wuncler III
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Pearl was at Wisconsin-Milwaukee before UT.
Much more competitive league. That was a Horizon League with Butler, Cleveland State, and Valparaiso.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 1:20 pm to SwaggerCopter
From 2001-2005(Pearls tenure) the only team of those you listed that made the tournament was Butler, once in 2001.
While Kennedy was at Murray State, Morehead State at least one tournament game if I remember. There really is no difference in those leagues.
While Kennedy was at Murray State, Morehead State at least one tournament game if I remember. There really is no difference in those leagues.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 4:36 pm to Ed Wuncler III
As a rule of thumb, if you're a member of a Big 6 conference (Big 7 now that the Big East is basketball only), you need to hire a coach that has made the NCAA tournament as an at-large school, not one from a league that requires you to win your conference tournament.
Tony Barone (Creighton - Missouri Valley [now Big East]): Right idea, but didn't
succeed (at-large in 1991 with Creighton)
Melvin Watkins (UNC-Charlotte - CUSA): Right idea, but EPIC FAIL (at large in 1996 and 1997)
Billy Gillispie (UTEP - WAC): Right idea, BIG SUCCESS (at-large in 2004)
Mark Turgeon (Wichita State - Missouri Valley): Right idea, decent success (at large + Sweet 16 in 2006)
Billy Kennedy (Murray State - Ohio Valley): ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG IDEA, EPIC FAIL
Tony Barone (Creighton - Missouri Valley [now Big East]): Right idea, but didn't
succeed (at-large in 1991 with Creighton)
Melvin Watkins (UNC-Charlotte - CUSA): Right idea, but EPIC FAIL (at large in 1996 and 1997)
Billy Gillispie (UTEP - WAC): Right idea, BIG SUCCESS (at-large in 2004)
Mark Turgeon (Wichita State - Missouri Valley): Right idea, decent success (at large + Sweet 16 in 2006)
Billy Kennedy (Murray State - Ohio Valley): ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG IDEA, EPIC FAIL
This post was edited on 12/23/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/23/13 at 5:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
CUSA was not a bad basketball conference at all then. They had Louisville, Miami, BC, and a couple others who were competitive. I think hiring a basketball coach is very hard to do, as the talent a conference has changes a lot over time unlike football. I think that the coaches who are these mid-major coaches who win their conference tournaments aren't the greatest but they aren't a bad place to start. At the end of the season count how many of the Big 7 conference have coaches fired on teams that aren't a special program and at least 60% will hire mid-major coaches. That's just how it is.
Posted on 12/23/13 at 5:45 pm to Ed Wuncler III
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They had Louisville, Miami, BC, and a couple others who were competitive.
Conference USA: Late 90's
Cincinnati
DePaul
Houston
Louisville
Marquette
Memphis
St. Louis
South Florida
UNC-Charlotte (now "Charlotte")
Southern Miss
UAB
Tulane
Posted on 12/23/13 at 5:54 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Cincy, Louisville, Marquette and Memphis isn't bad, even if I was wrong.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 6:20 pm to Ed Wuncler III
$1.3 million per year to lose to UNT by 20 at home.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 6:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Only after Ed Conroy.
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