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re: Honest question, how many Orgeron for HC supporters are now off the bandwagon?

Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:14 am to
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:14 am to
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He either gets credit for both wins and losses or the coordinators do. You can't give O credit for the improved offensive display but blame Ensminger for the Bama game.

Boom. If we can't give him credit for breaking records on offense, what else can we give him credit for this year?

Keeping recruits. That's it. Honestly, I think that's why we hired him as interim HC. Regardless of wins and losses this year, he'll be able to keep our class for the most part. That's not easy to do when you fire a HC. That's the most important thing right now until the real coach comes in next year.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:17 am to
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We will agree to disagree i guess


agreed

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It would have likely been worse than 31-0 nothing if not for Aranda


Or poor offensive play calling by kiffin as you suggest for lsu's problems on offense.

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We had so many short fields to score on and couldn't manage more than a first down (if that). That's just bad offensive play calling and execution plain and simple.


Alabama had the same problem. If it's bad play calling and execution for lsu, it was bad play calling and execution for bama too.

Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10082 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:26 am to
His true test is the next 3 games, win them and he is the HC.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
5329 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:31 am to
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To Alabama? Really?


Arkansas - 30 points on Alabama

Ole Miss - 43 points on Alabama

Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:33 am to
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Alabama had the same problem. If it's bad play calling and execution for lsu, it was bad play calling and execution for bama too.
The issue with this is that they put up more than double our yardage. They improved in the second half. Even the announcers said they were doing a different offense. They were attempting adjustments. Aranda still shut them down enough to give us a chance, though.

We got worse in the second half. That means that whatever opportunity we had to move the ball before, Bama had figured it out and shut it down.

Believe it or not, there is game planning going on behind the scenes. Coaches are trying to figure out each other.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4891 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:50 am to
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Believe it or not, there is game planning going on behind the scenes. Coaches are trying to figure out each other.


I agree. I think ours did planning and adjustments too. I don't think they were playing x-box and watching movies (i.e. nothing as you suggest).

I believe bama had better talent on the offensive side of the ball. Specifically at the qb position and oline. You can coach/scheme all you want, if you don't have the horses, your not going to be successful. If you don't believe that, put bama's coaching staff at vandy and see how they perform.

Hell, they have the best talent in America and produced 10 more points than lsu. They must be almost as bad as the lsu coaches.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:52 am to
I would tend to believe that a decision has already been made and behind the scenes discussions are taking place. O is a viable backup plan is LSU's top level choices can't be delivered. If they wait until after the season to begin serious negotiations, it will probably be too late to aquire a top level coach. Otherwise, O would have already been chosen.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:58 am to
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I think ours did planning and adjustments too.
And what were they? I noticed less production later in the game. Did we adjust to a worse offense?
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You can coach/scheme all you want, if you don't have the horses, your not going to be successful.
Was Ole Miss and Arkansas? We broke records earlier this year, but couldn't put up more than 125 yards. Were you saying that we had a terrible oline before this week? If so, why? Even though our opponents were not good, could we actually break records with an atrocious oline?
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Hell, they have the best talent in America and produced 10 more points than lsu. They must be almost as bad as the lsu coaches.


I think Aranda is as smart defensively as they are.
Posted by PrideofTheSEC
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
5276 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:15 pm to
I was about 60% in favor of coach O before Bama game, I am now around 40% in his favor. In my opinion while it was a very hard fought game the offensive woes combined with being shutout was the worst way for him to lose. A 28-24 loss would've looked much better versus 125 yards and shutout 10-0.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:20 pm to
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In my opinion while it was a very hard fought game the offensive woes combined with being shutout was the worst way for him to lose. A 28-24 loss would've looked much better versus 125 yards and shutout 10-0.


Yep, agreed.
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