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Hiring Coordinators: Long term stability > Short term Success?
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:05 am
Does a head coach look for long term stability in hiring his guy, someone who won't be leaving any time soon or does he give greater importance to immediate short term success even though with that success means it's guaranteed he won't be here for long (probably more of a younger coach) and possibly disrupting the team chemistry and everything in starting over a new offense/defense and all?
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
you hire the coach that gives you the best chance to win
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
Hopefully all coaches would rather short term success
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
While it may be on the mind of he h/c, I think you still hire the best available, unless you know for sure he will only be with you one year. Any position coach would probably always have a "want" to move to h/c.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:14 am to Chad504boy
Hire the best coach. This usually means there is a chance he leaves, as you are hiring him on his way up.
We did the opposite for defensive coordinator, but I don't know if it was by choice. Chavis has worked out and I always liked the hire, but I think Cooper and Brick should get some of the credit.
With the talent we have, we need to win now. Therefore, get the coach that helps win now. If he leaves for a better job, that helps you get an even hotter commodity next time.
We did the opposite for defensive coordinator, but I don't know if it was by choice. Chavis has worked out and I always liked the hire, but I think Cooper and Brick should get some of the credit.
With the talent we have, we need to win now. Therefore, get the coach that helps win now. If he leaves for a better job, that helps you get an even hotter commodity next time.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:20 am to Chad504boy
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Long term stability > Short term Success?
No, if no one wants to hire your coordinator, they likely aren't doing that well. I want guys who want to move up in the ranks and have something to prove because they will work harder.
IMO
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:27 am to Chad504boy
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Long term stability > Short term Success?
It's a balancing act imo. You don't wanna go hire some guy that will come in and have one great season and leave to become a head coach somewhere. It will only hurt the players if there isn't some stability. However, you don't want to hire a guy that no one would ever want. This is the drawback to a Mike Leach type hire. Sure he'll come in and possibly have a great season. But it's very likely someone will give him a shot at another HC job. Then we are back to searching for another OC next year. Then your offensive players will have had 3 OC's in 3 years. There is a value to continuity.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:28 am to Chad504boy
You hire the guy who gives you the best chance to win, ESPECIALLY when you're set up for a serious run at a NC like we are next year.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 11:19 am to TexasTigah
You was stability in a HC who succeeds in picking out good talented players and coaching staff. If you have that then the coach will hire the best coach for now. However, in position coaching I think I would rather stability in a coach good at developing young talent.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 1:17 pm to TexasTigah
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You hire the guy who gives you the best chance to win, ESPECIALLY when you're set up for a serious run at a NC like we are next year.
What he said!
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:34 pm to ashy larry
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You don't wanna go hire some guy that will come in and have one great season and leave to become a head coach somewhere.
Didn't hurt Miami when Shnellenberger (sp?), Erickson and Jimmy Johnson were head coach and left to go to the pros. USCs assistant coaches were always getting poached and they kept winning confrence championships. Stability is fine, but overrated in my opinion.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 5:13 pm to Suntiger
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Didn't hurt Miami when Shnellenberger (sp?), Erickson and Jimmy Johnson were head coach and left to go to the pros.
all of those guys were head coaches for 5-6 years iirc.
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USCs assistant coaches were always getting poached and they kept winning confrence championships.
we are talking about offensive coordinators (see thread title). they promoted from within which helps stability.
2001-2004 Chow
2005-2006 Kiffin (promoted from within)
2007-2008 Sarkisian (promoted from within)
Posted on 1/18/11 at 5:27 pm to Chad504boy
Long term stability AND Short term Success = Ideal for Delusional Fan Bases
Posted on 1/18/11 at 5:39 pm to Chad504boy
If you do not win short term, you may not be around long term. short term > long term.
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