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hell no to Kragthorpe

Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:59 pm
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 7:59 pm


we're just getting out of the Twilight Zone with Crowton, Les.





Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
4952 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:02 pm to
Agree
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10630 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:03 pm to
It's John Gruden or BUST!!!!
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:04 pm to
People look just at his record as a HC and not when he was a coordinator. Greg Williams was a horrible HC. He still knows how to run a defense.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:06 pm to
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protip: "signatures" like this look stupid even when emotes are working, when they're turned off, it's even worse.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:06 pm to
The best thing you can say about Kragthorpe is that he is not Crowton.

I have not gone through his record as a OC at Texas A&M but from what most people say it is nothing great.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22301 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:13 pm to
i think he's a hell of a coach. i saw several of his tulsa teams in person and was very impressed. not sure why he didn't pan out at UL, but i think he will be a great oc.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28440 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:20 pm to
Kragthorpe is not my top choice, but I think he'll do well here.

Kragthorpe certainly isn't some "disaster hire" as you are implying.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 8:20 pm
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:27 pm to
People can want some one "better" all they want. But if les does not mesh with him it does not matter.

And yes, that means under his thumb to i am sure.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:29 pm to
Offenses improved when he left Tulsa.

Isn't a truly proven QB coach after being on guys like Bledsoe who were already developed vets.

Turned a dynamic Louisville offense into pure garbage after he took over for Petrino.

Sound familiar?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

I have not gone through his record as a OC at Texas A&M but from what most people say it is nothing great.


im not sure i get this guys appeal either. i looked over his stats at Tulsa, expecting to see some gaudy Texas Tech like numbers, but they were astoundingly average, essentially the same that we have under Crowton.

2003
scoring offense: 31ppg (28th)
total offense: 387ypg (51st)

2004
scoring offense: 29ppg (40th)
total offense: 356ypg (73rd)

2005
scoring offense: 33ppg (23rd)
total offense: 402ypg (39th)

2006
scoring offense: 28ppg (37th)
total offense: 388ypg (24th)


from 1998-2000, he was the OC at Texas AM (do we really want a dude who hasn't been an OC in 11 years), and I cant find 1998 but...

1999
scoring offense: 30ppg (39th)
total offense 374ypg (58th)

2000
scoring offense: 28ppg (46th)
total offense: 328ypg (49th)


everyone here (except me) hates Crowton but this is what he did this year, against much better defenses.

scoring offense: 30ppg (45th)
total offense: 341ypg (86th)

and in 2007
scoring offense: 39ppg (11th)
total offense: 439ypg (26th)
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 7:40 am
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10944 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

People look just at his record as a HC and not when he was a coordinator


AT his last stop as an OC his team's record went 11-3, 8-4, 7-5. And I am pretty sure if I remember reading correctly, his offense degressed every year. Sounds nothing like Crowton
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 8:38 pm to
I'm hoping he is a pure backup plan since he wasn't employed. Doesn't seem like anyone is knocking his door down. It is nice that Miles looked at Harsin. So, that leads me to believe Kragthorpe is a backup plan. At least I hope so.
Posted by DocJerome
New Jersey
Member since Aug 2009
887 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 9:11 pm to
I have to agree with the OP, no to Kragthorpe.

44-43 as a Head Coach
OC at Northern Arizona 1992-93
OC North Texas 1994-95
OC Texas A&M 1998-2000

Other than winning the Big 12 Championship with Texas A&M in '98 I don't see anything special. May as well keep Crowton.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
6152 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 9:12 pm to
This is a a huge gamble. Why, why why? Look at his background. Nothing really.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

MastrShake


Thats what I am talking about...thanks for looking that up.

Moreover, you didn't even mention his steaming pile of monkey crap at Louisville.

Again, it sounds like everywhere Kragthorpe has been he has peaked at average.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 9:57 pm to
Does'nt he run the petrino set?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 9:58 pm to
what did he do from 2000 to present?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

And yes, that means under his thumb to i am sure.


i call bull shite on this. yes, miles is the head coach but when your OC's offense is one of the worst in college football and he insists on running the option even though it continues to fail maybe he is damn justifyed in stepping in. miles is not a dictator.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 5:25 am to
and what makes you think this? Ask the folkd in Louisville about the crap he pulled off the field. He is a cancer do some homework
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