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re: Dolphins fire OC Chan Gailey
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:16 am to LSU82BILL
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:16 am to LSU82BILL
Ironically only running slants is part of what the issue was when he got into the game
They never trusted him to make plays or put him in position to make deep throws that he made his money on at Bama (some of that is based on the roster but still)
Now that may be just because he stinks, but could also just be bad conservative coaching by an ancient NFL coordinator who wasn’t able to adapt the offense they had with Fitz into something that worked for Tua, which should’ve been his only real goal this season.
Will find out which soon enough
They never trusted him to make plays or put him in position to make deep throws that he made his money on at Bama (some of that is based on the roster but still)
Now that may be just because he stinks, but could also just be bad conservative coaching by an ancient NFL coordinator who wasn’t able to adapt the offense they had with Fitz into something that worked for Tua, which should’ve been his only real goal this season.
Will find out which soon enough
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:51 am to Billy Mays
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They have zero RBs
Gaskin says hello
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:53 am to ozwego15
I’ll be honest watching the offense, the play calling and creativity was awful. They also need better WRs
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:07 pm to wildtigercat93
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Now that may be just because he stinks, but could also just be bad conservative coaching by an ancient NFL coordinator who wasn’t able to adapt the offense they had with Fitz into something that worked for Tua, which should’ve been his only real goal this season
You act like the difference between Tua and Fitz is like the difference between Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson. It's not. The offensive system and the playcalling was the same. The difference between Fitz and Tua was their ability to read defenses, to understand the difference between what an "open" Alabama receiver is and what an open NFL receiver is and Tua's lack of experience at having to do make decisions quicker than he did at Bama while Fitz has been doing it in the NFL for 16 seasons.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:27 pm to LSU82BILL
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You act like the difference between Tua and Fitz is like the difference between Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson. It's not.
No, the difference is more about what they allow him to run in the system not their playing styles
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The offensive system and the playcalling was the same.
It very obviously wasn’t.
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The difference between Fitz and Tua was their ability to read defenses, to understand the difference between what an "open" Alabama receiver is and what an open NFL receiver is and Tua's lack of experience at having to do make decisions quicker than he did at Bama while Fitz has been doing it in the NFL for 16 seasons.
Well yeah of course Fitz can have more control and ability in that offense that he’s been in for most of his 16 year career.
But there’s plenty of ways to cultivate your offense to a young developing QB to bridge the gap between keeping the offense successful and highlighting Tuas strengths while letting him evolve over time. The Dolphins failed to do that.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:12 pm to ozwego15
Funny offense was fine when Fitzmagic was in.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:18 pm to Tigersonfire
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Funny offense was fine when Fitzmagic was in.
Of course it does, he’s been in that offense for most of his career. He’s going to be more comfortable with that offense and be able to run everything that’s in the playbook.
but the Dolphins goals aren’t set to making Ryan Fitzpatrick their franchise QB.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:56 pm to wildtigercat93
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Well yeah of course Fitz can have more control and ability in that offense that he’s been in for most of his 16 year career.
But there’s plenty of ways to cultivate your offense to a young developing QB to bridge the gap between keeping the offense successful and highlighting Tuas strengths while letting him evolve over time. The Dolphins failed to do that.
The difference wasn't in the play calling. It was in the decision making. Tua was conservative and Fitz doesn't give a shite. You don't think it's a coincidence that Tua threw 2 interceptions in his first 9 1/2 games but threw 3 in the second half of his 10th start with a playoff berth on the line, do you? Up until the 2nd half of the Buffalo game on Sunday, Tua was "cultivating" the offense to what he was comfortable with and defenses picked up on it all year. I mean, he was completing passes on 3rd and 3 and still coming up short of the 1st down.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:05 pm to LSU82BILL
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The difference wasn't in the play calling. It was in the decision making. T
This just isn’t true. They were calling a completely different game with Tua in there, which again is due to Fitz’s deep knowledge of the system allowing him to run everything Chan has in his pocket
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You don't think it's a coincidence that Tua threw 2 interceptions in his first 9 1/2 games but threw 3 in the second half of his 10th start with a playoff berth on the line, do you?
I don’t really see the correlation. Tua definitely needs to work on being more decisive, but they were down by two touchdowns in a blink against one of the best teams in football so I’m not suprised that he had more picks, I mean he threw 58 times that game.
Josh Allen on the other sideline spent two years looking just as lost as Tua did on Sunday so it seems a bit premature to act like Tua is a lost cause
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Up until the 2nd half of the Buffalo game on Sunday, Tua was "cultivating" the offense to what he was comfortable with and defenses picked up on it all year. I mean, he was completing passes on 3rd and 3 and still coming up short of the 1st down.
I don’t even understand what you are arguing at this point.
The Dolphins entire mission is to develop Tua to turn them into a real contender. Or find out if he’s not the guy to turn them into a contender as quick as possible. If they feel the OC isn’t the guy to make that happen then that’s why they made the switch. The things the Dolphins are running are not the things that Tua excelled at in college. Good playcallers and coordinators can adapt their offense to its players strengths. Chan wasn’t able to do that. We also have decades of evidence of how painfully average Chan Gailey is as a coordinator. It’s really that simple
If it were any other QB that Tua, you wouldn’t give two shits about Chan Gailey or Ryan Fitzpatrick
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 1/6/21 at 2:56 pm to wildtigercat93
Yeah, I'm sure you are more knowledgeable and getting better information than somebody who lives in South Florida and has probably seen 95% of Miami Dolphins games since 1968.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/6/21 at 6:30 pm to ozwego15
Link to a retraction
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:35 am to wildtigercat93
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but the Dolphins goals aren’t set to making Ryan Fitzpatrick their franchise QB.
And making Tua their pick will be laughable in about three years. Bookmark it. Look at Bamas an now. He’s doing better than Tua yet Tua is some god. Tua is a system qb that was surrounded by the best talent in the nation. He’s a bust just wait.
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