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DC Experience Not Needed
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:16 pm
I keep seeing posts that somehow the LSU defensive coordinator needs experience. Which is just not true.
Dan Quinn didn’t have much Coordinator experience when he took the Florida job. His path was near identical to Ryan Nielsen to this point.
Jim Leonhard
Brent Venables
Jeremy Pruitt
Kevin Steele
Barry Odom
Charlie Strong
All of these are just a few of the many examples of guys who were amazing position coaches that jumped into coordinating defenses at major programs by doing extremely well at coaching the position they were assigned.
This happens all the time in the NFL and in college. That’s why names like Ryan Nielsen and DeMeco Ryans get mention(by me) because they are ready to make the jump.
Happened last year with Tem Lukabu.
(I have a bias towards ascending guys. I like when my head coach, and coordinators are being talked about for bigger/better jobs. It means that the program is preforming.)
Dan Quinn didn’t have much Coordinator experience when he took the Florida job. His path was near identical to Ryan Nielsen to this point.
Jim Leonhard
Brent Venables
Jeremy Pruitt
Kevin Steele
Barry Odom
Charlie Strong
All of these are just a few of the many examples of guys who were amazing position coaches that jumped into coordinating defenses at major programs by doing extremely well at coaching the position they were assigned.
This happens all the time in the NFL and in college. That’s why names like Ryan Nielsen and DeMeco Ryans get mention(by me) because they are ready to make the jump.
Happened last year with Tem Lukabu.
(I have a bias towards ascending guys. I like when my head coach, and coordinators are being talked about for bigger/better jobs. It means that the program is preforming.)
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:21 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
I think considering our last hire was such a debacle fans, boosters, and admin want a sure fire candidate. Opportunity on a guy who’s never called defensive plays or developed and taught a scheme is long past. That experiment should have happened last time when we hired bo
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:22 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
I think almost everyone on that list started with a DC job at a smaller program. Except Steele, who was so good as Bama DC that they brought in Kirby.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:23 pm to BayouBengal21
Totally agree.. a few of were on the boat last year screaming to hire somebody with an upside.. not to play it safe.
So you’re saying, another safe hire?
I still like Arnett the most, but I wouldn’t mind a fast riser.
So you’re saying, another safe hire?
I still like Arnett the most, but I wouldn’t mind a fast riser.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:24 pm to BayouBengal21
quote:
sure fire candidate
No such thing
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:25 pm to jrodLSUke
You’d be wrong sir.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:25 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
No I’m suggesting a candidate that is preferably younger, but that has already been a DC whether in the p5 or fbs levels
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:26 pm to MONROE
Disagree but I can’t see LSU promoting a positions coach
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:30 pm to BayouBengal21
DCs come in three ways:
1.) Internal promotion (no experience, you earned trust)
2.) Proven position coach(no experience, but your position is lighting it up on the field. Outside hire)
3.) You started at small schools and worked your way up. Zach Arnett, Pete Golding, Marcus Freeman.
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
1.) Internal promotion (no experience, you earned trust)
2.) Proven position coach(no experience, but your position is lighting it up on the field. Outside hire)
3.) You started at small schools and worked your way up. Zach Arnett, Pete Golding, Marcus Freeman.
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:33 pm to BayouBengal21
Nick fricking Saban had ZERO coordinator experience.
Michigan State liked what they saw and promoted him from being a DB coach at Navy.
Michigan State liked what they saw and promoted him from being a DB coach at Navy.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:43 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
Glenn Schumann is the one guy with no official play calling experience that I’d 100% trust to be a very good DC. Based on everything else I’ve read, heard, and watched about him.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:45 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
IowaCity...you are an enthusiastic poster but a little less “know it all” in your posts would go a long way. I’m assuming you are just like the other 99% of the folks on this board and just a fan. You are not a coach and no matter what you believe, you really just have opinions, just like the rest of us. Maybe entertain the idea that others are entitled to their opinions and you should respect all opinions, even if you strongly disagree with them
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:46 pm to Wrucker16
Agreed. There are names out there you go for because of their production of their position and the upside they present.
Yes, they aren’t a “known known,” but there are risks with every hire.
Give me a guy who is killing it at what he does right now!
Yes, they aren’t a “known known,” but there are risks with every hire.
Give me a guy who is killing it at what he does right now!
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:48 pm to Anon180
My wife tells me I can be condescending. Don’t mean to come off that way.
Apologies.
Apologies.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:50 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
Nick Saban was the DC for the Cleveland Browns before Michigan State hired him to be head coach.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:52 pm to Springlake Tiger
His first DC experience was at Michigan State.
Later, he was their Head Coach.
Later, he was their Head Coach.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:58 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
quote:
My wife tells me I can be condescending.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:00 pm to Captain Crown
“Shrugs shoulders”
Hahaha
Hahaha
Posted on 1/11/21 at 4:04 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
I just need 247 to have a DC big board or we have one thread with a list of names so I can link their profiles and background
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