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D. Walker
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/20/08 at 10:52 am
As a resident of the left coast, I can assure you Walker is not universally praised even amongst the low expectations of the UCLA fanbase. He's gotten almost all of his mileage out of an upset of USC three damn years ago. His D has gotten blown out quite a few times since then.
Chavis and Walker are both upgrades, but Walker isn't a savior, and might not be better than Bo P.
Chavis and Walker are both upgrades, but Walker isn't a savior, and might not be better than Bo P.
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Posted on 12/20/08 at 11:06 am to EmperorGout
quote:
and might not be better than Bo P.
gee, you think?
Posted on 12/20/08 at 11:16 am to EmperorGout
quote:
might not be better than Bo P
Well if we have even a chance to have a better D than we had under Pelini then sign him up now.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 12:15 pm to EmperorGout
quote:Who do you think is?
and might not be better than Bo P.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 12:49 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
and might not be better than Bo P.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:23 pm to flucobaseball
i would have thought that ucla did not have the athletes but i was wrong. They have recruited quite well LINK
virginia tech by comparison has had shite for recruiting and have done great.
virginia tech by comparison has had shite for recruiting and have done great.
This post was edited on 12/20/08 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:24 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:muschamp for 1
Who do you think is?
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:27 pm to dreaux
Walker will have a lot more talent here compared to UCLA. He is a great hire and, in many people's opinions, better than Chavis.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:29 pm to south bama tiger
quote:go look at my link and tell me he had no talent to work with.
Walker will have a lot more talent here compared to UCLA. He is a great hire and, in many people's opinions, better than Chavis.
he will have "more talent" but not by much. Ucla recruited defense very well.
This post was edited on 12/20/08 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:34 pm to dreaux
quote:
Ucla recruited defense very well.
which years?
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:39 pm to ATLTiger
quote:I'm jumping in here late. I think they recruited well defensively last year (2008), but I don't think they did very well before that in recent years.
which years?
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:40 pm to EmperorGout
Emperor had this one right.
This guy is unproven and UCLA's defense has been mediocre for 3 years, in a conference where offenses are not very good overall.
Somebody started the entire Walker lovefest and everyone has just gotten on board like lemmings off a cliff.
You query 9 out of 10 people on here who "love" Walker and I bet they can't tell you jack about what he has accomplished. Funny how that works.
Chavis is the answer. I hope we get him.
This guy is unproven and UCLA's defense has been mediocre for 3 years, in a conference where offenses are not very good overall.
Somebody started the entire Walker lovefest and everyone has just gotten on board like lemmings off a cliff.
You query 9 out of 10 people on here who "love" Walker and I bet they can't tell you jack about what he has accomplished. Funny how that works.
Chavis is the answer. I hope we get him.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:44 pm to L.A.
quote:
I think they recruited well defensively last year (2008), but I don't think they did very well before that in recent years.
Yeah I knew about last year's class, but they actually did do ok every 2 years it seems before that. Lotta Houston and NO kids, I think Bienemy was doing a lotta that.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 1:50 pm to dreaux
2006 10 **** 2 ***** 13***
2008 13 **** 11 ***
2007 6 **** 5 ***
2005 mostly 3 stars.
sure lsu will have more talent, but i think he had enough to do better then he did, If he is so great as many say.
I would still like to have him. He is highly regaurded. But would rather chavis.
2008 13 **** 11 ***
2007 6 **** 5 ***
2005 mostly 3 stars.
sure lsu will have more talent, but i think he had enough to do better then he did, If he is so great as many say.
I would still like to have him. He is highly regaurded. But would rather chavis.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:03 pm to dreaux
We should copare that to Tenn. recruits fro the same years. Perhaps add an allowance for SEC vs. PAC10?
We can then send our choice to CLM!
We can then send our choice to CLM!
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:06 pm to dreaux
I think looking at recruits in 2003,2004, and 2005 are the most relevant years to look at for his defenses of 2006, 2007, and 2008, In those years, I listed the recruiting on defense was pretty weak.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:41 pm to dreaux
Total Recruits (Offense and Deffense) are as follows:
LSU Tenn UCLA
5* 4* 3* 2*/ 5* 4* 3* 2*/ 5* 4* 3* 2*
2008 2 11 13 0 / 0 4 11 2 / 0 12 11 0
2007 2 19 5 0 / 5 11 15 1 / 0 6 4 0
2006 2 12 11 0 / 1 4 13 4 / 0 7 13 2
2005 1 7 5 0 / 1 16 9 0 / 1 3 12 5
Commitments
2009 3 11 5 1 / 0 7 9 0 / 0 7 9 1
Looks like Tennessee's 2007 class was a MONSTER. Lane and Monte might have something to work with. UCLA has some talent but looks comparable to bottom tier SEC.
LSU Tenn UCLA
5* 4* 3* 2*/ 5* 4* 3* 2*/ 5* 4* 3* 2*
2008 2 11 13 0 / 0 4 11 2 / 0 12 11 0
2007 2 19 5 0 / 5 11 15 1 / 0 6 4 0
2006 2 12 11 0 / 1 4 13 4 / 0 7 13 2
2005 1 7 5 0 / 1 16 9 0 / 1 3 12 5
Commitments
2009 3 11 5 1 / 0 7 9 0 / 0 7 9 1
Looks like Tennessee's 2007 class was a MONSTER. Lane and Monte might have something to work with. UCLA has some talent but looks comparable to bottom tier SEC.
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:47 pm to EmperorGout
I understand D. Walker's achievements. I've looked at both Chavis and Walker history and I've seen both defenses in action. Admittedly, I've seen Chaivs a lot more and I'm just not sold on his soft type defense. Hes definitely a upgrade but the way LSU got burned last year and this year was because of this same soft philosophy. I don't want to constantly see LSU getting torched consistently on 3rd downs, I want someone who is aggressive, gets in the head of the QB and doesn't let him recover the entire game. Like our old Saban defenses, once you clean their clock out, they remember it the entire game. Not the, "lets sit 15 yards off the ball and give a free catch to the receivers", IMO.
With that being said, I'll take either one but I'd prefer Walker now. I like who he was tutored under too, some pretty big names.
With that being said, I'll take either one but I'd prefer Walker now. I like who he was tutored under too, some pretty big names.
This post was edited on 12/20/08 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:good work. Yeah tenn finished like 2nd that year
Sid in Lakeshore
Posted on 12/20/08 at 2:53 pm to dreaux
tenn 2008 and 2006 were abysmal to say the least. thier 2005 and 2007 were great. Lsu has more.
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