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re: crowton's going nowhere

Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:42 pm to
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Who knows ... but his coaching history leads me to believe that yes, he will be here in 2 years. Only 2 other schools have more SEC wins than Miles since 2005.
it's coming to a crashing halt...FAST.
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
2418 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:45 pm to
WTF? I was under the impression that Belowpar would be correct. I expect, going from history, that Miles wouldn't dump anyone until after the bowl game.

Why is everyone all of a sudden saying GC is staying?
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:46 pm to
It's all rumors for now. You won't know anything until after the Capital One Bowl.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:46 pm to
like miles...the information is everywhere, and confused.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28264 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:46 pm to
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it's coming to a crashing halt...FAST.


If I had a nickel for every time I've heard that since January 2005, I'd be rich.

And that's no joke, I'd seriously have like $14 million saved by now, which ironically enough would be enough to buy Miles out.
This post was edited on 12/2/09 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Survivor 2010
Member since Dec 2007
2713 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:47 pm to
According to the chat room, Crowton is not leaving. Also, was said Miles is putting his stock in JJ as the QB....although Lazare and Scarb both think JJ is struggling to learn the game from a mental standpoint.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:47 pm to
Do you not think the program has gone downhill a bit?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:47 pm to
it's never been as pronounced as now.

your affinity and defense of miles is almost nauseating, JP. no offense.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28264 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:48 pm to
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Do you not think the program has gone downhill a bit?


Certainly, a tad bit, yes... not as much as many would like you to think, though.

All experts know that LSU is still on very solid footing.

Could we have a better coach? Certainly, I don't think anyone would disagree there. But to claim it's all coming "crashing down" is being a tad overdramatic and irrational.
This post was edited on 12/2/09 at 9:49 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28264 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:50 pm to
I'm not defending Miles, I'm just playing devil's advocate to silly notions that "LSU's programs is going down the tubes."

Anyone that follows recruiting knows that not to be even close to the case.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:50 pm to
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All experts know that LSU is still on very solid footing.
very solid footing?

explain.

there has been a need to completely overhaul both sides of the ball for 2 consecutive years now. there comes a point where miles re-evaluates his position on himself and ask if he's the problem.
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:50 pm to
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Could we have a better coach? Certainly, I don't think anyone would disagree there. But to claim it's all coming "crashing down" is being a tad overdramatic and irrational.

Completely agree with you. But we could have a better coach. Everyone knows that and that's what makes it so frustrating.
We have a foundation, we just need someone to come in before that foundation disappears over the next 5 - 7 years. People see what happened at other programs and fear the worst.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:51 pm to
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Anyone that follows recruiting knows that not to be even close to the case.
i think we all know now that while he might be a dynamic recruiter, is he that great of a recruiter of needs?
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:51 pm to
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i think we all know now that while he might be a dynamic recruiter, is he that great of a recruiter of needs?


Could another guy not do the same?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61849 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:52 pm to
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it's never been as pronounced as now.

your affinity and defense of miles is almost nauseating, JP. no offense.


I think you are overstating the problems we are confronting.

To definitively say that Miles couldn't turn this around is pretty ridiculous IMO.
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
2418 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:52 pm to
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According to the chat room, Crowton is not leaving. Also, was said Miles is putting his stock in JJ as the QB....although Lazare and Scarb both think JJ is struggling to learn the game from a mental standpoint.



I really, really hope this isn't true. It's pretty obvious JJ is struggling to learn the playbook....but I think he's got skills. Which is exactly why we need:

1.) A really good QB coach
2.) An OC who can utilize the skills he has and run those plays, not try to make the entire team run an offense that doesn't fit the skill sets
Posted by As RXd
Member since Aug 2009
6011 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:52 pm to
But it's not certain that he could, is it?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61849 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:53 pm to
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But it's not certain that he could, is it?


Of course not. Nothing is certain. I'm not sure what your point is.

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83113 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:54 pm to
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I think you are overstating the problems we are confronting.

To definitively say that Miles couldn't turn this around is pretty ridiculous IMO.
i respect your opinion, mine is of one that does not have much confidence in his ability to get us over the hump.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/2/09 at 9:55 pm to
I cannot and will not believe Crowton survives this. Belowpar has spoken. Crowton will be sent packing. :crossesfingers:
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