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re: Contrary to public belief, Mike Denbrock was only Kelly's OC at Notre Dame one year...
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:22 am to mikertheTIGER
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:22 am to mikertheTIGER
quote:
Burrow chose us over Cincy, was Denbrock there then.
Weak troll, 2/10
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:37 am to macaoidh
Bc there are posters who were loyal to Orgeron and they’re gonna find fault in everything Kelly does bc their boy got fired.
They’ll bitch about anything Kelly does.
They’ll bitch about anything Kelly does.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:41 am to macaoidh
quote:this is weird. Why would Kelly change oc if it was working?
After that year, Denbrock became associate head coach and a new guy was brought in to be the offensive coordinator.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 8:09 am to geauxtigers810
quote:
This is a little misleading as denbrock was still the play caller and left when they were taking his play calling away.
So why did they take his play-calling away?
Posted on 12/19/21 at 12:45 pm to emanresu
quote:
congrats on beating up 2 stars
Using other 2 stars to do it dumbass
Posted on 12/19/21 at 1:10 pm to tiggerthetooth
Because their offense struggled at times inconsistently with a bad QB.
Denbrock makes plenty sense here. BK obviously respects him as he didn't want to let him go at ND. It's difficult to say what kind of offense BK will run at LSU but I think BK will identify our strengths and build a scheme around this. I think he has already done that if Denbrock is his hire.
He probably saw LSU's strength is WR, Brennan, and has a stable of RBs he could very likely use effectively. Think about it. This will be BK's offense. Denbrock runs heavy modern RPOs with TEs involved in everything on his offense. LSU has a star in the making in Bech. Davis was used badly his entire career at LSU. Denbrock's scheme loves RPOs with the RB smashing it straight between the tackles which is Davis strength. Brennan is a beautiful deep ball thrower and in Denbrock's scheme he loves pound, pound, hit the TE, pound, plenty RPOs, and when the defense sleeps...deep ball them which Brennan excels at. The scheme isn't a negative to Brennan because the way it's setup he can still melt defenses with the deep ball for huge numbers and there's no telling what BK told him he wants to add.
Make no mistake about it this will be BK's offense so it's likely they'll mesh some new concepts into Denbrock's scheme but he'll be running what BK wants. I think he has already identified our strengths. This hire makes too much sense not to happen. Not a huge fan of it but I really don't care since it will be BK running it anyway.
Main issue with Denbrock's scheme is the reliance on TEs. I don't believe LSU has a true one on the roster now so they may need the transfer portal. He also has sets with 3 TEs. Unless we omit these parts completely from the scheme(which is possible with BK) I think they will target a TE in the portal to go with Bech's star making ability receiving. BK is known to adapt a scheme and Denbrock has been around long enough to adjust his scheme also. Just fyi Gilbert is a complete dumbass leaving LSU. He could've feasted in a scheme like this next year.
Denbrock makes plenty sense here. BK obviously respects him as he didn't want to let him go at ND. It's difficult to say what kind of offense BK will run at LSU but I think BK will identify our strengths and build a scheme around this. I think he has already done that if Denbrock is his hire.
He probably saw LSU's strength is WR, Brennan, and has a stable of RBs he could very likely use effectively. Think about it. This will be BK's offense. Denbrock runs heavy modern RPOs with TEs involved in everything on his offense. LSU has a star in the making in Bech. Davis was used badly his entire career at LSU. Denbrock's scheme loves RPOs with the RB smashing it straight between the tackles which is Davis strength. Brennan is a beautiful deep ball thrower and in Denbrock's scheme he loves pound, pound, hit the TE, pound, plenty RPOs, and when the defense sleeps...deep ball them which Brennan excels at. The scheme isn't a negative to Brennan because the way it's setup he can still melt defenses with the deep ball for huge numbers and there's no telling what BK told him he wants to add.
Make no mistake about it this will be BK's offense so it's likely they'll mesh some new concepts into Denbrock's scheme but he'll be running what BK wants. I think he has already identified our strengths. This hire makes too much sense not to happen. Not a huge fan of it but I really don't care since it will be BK running it anyway.
Main issue with Denbrock's scheme is the reliance on TEs. I don't believe LSU has a true one on the roster now so they may need the transfer portal. He also has sets with 3 TEs. Unless we omit these parts completely from the scheme(which is possible with BK) I think they will target a TE in the portal to go with Bech's star making ability receiving. BK is known to adapt a scheme and Denbrock has been around long enough to adjust his scheme also. Just fyi Gilbert is a complete dumbass leaving LSU. He could've feasted in a scheme like this next year.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 12/19/21 at 1:32 pm to emanresu
So they had 4 and 5*s beating up on 2*s? Or did they also have 2*s on the field? Next time think a little more with your peewee brain before posting dumb azz
Posted on 12/20/21 at 6:27 am to emanresu
quote:
against pee-wee teams. congrats on beating up 2 stars
You’d make a terrible apple picker
Posted on 12/20/21 at 12:05 pm to macaoidh
Did a bit more digging into Denbrock...
While he was the offensive coordinator only one year, he was still the play caller. That blows my mind really. Notre Dame hired Mike Sanford as the OC/QB Coach, but in reality it seems the OC part was title only.
"Mike Denbrock was the one who called the plays during Sanford's two year run there, but he was heavily involved in the game plan."
Sanford then went on to head coach at WKU, then back as OC at Utah State... then Co-OC at Minnesota (I think he's now OC at Colorado). You'd have to dig into Sanford's history at ND to get the scoop that he didn't call plays.
It's also reported that Denbrock left for Cincinnati because his play calling duties had been diminished in his final year at ND.
While he was the offensive coordinator only one year, he was still the play caller. That blows my mind really. Notre Dame hired Mike Sanford as the OC/QB Coach, but in reality it seems the OC part was title only.
"Mike Denbrock was the one who called the plays during Sanford's two year run there, but he was heavily involved in the game plan."
Sanford then went on to head coach at WKU, then back as OC at Utah State... then Co-OC at Minnesota (I think he's now OC at Colorado). You'd have to dig into Sanford's history at ND to get the scoop that he didn't call plays.
It's also reported that Denbrock left for Cincinnati because his play calling duties had been diminished in his final year at ND.
Posted on 12/20/21 at 12:37 pm to mikertheTIGER
quote:If we're being honest and not trolling here-
Burrow chose us over Cincy, was Denbrock there then.
Burrow chose a P5 program with multiple recent national championships, tons of future NFL players, a gaping hole at QB and a recent trend towards starting transfers at that position.
Meanwhile, Cincinnati at the time was a G5 program that was maybe 3rd in their conference behind UCF and Memphis. It's major appeal at the time was it was close to home.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:09 pm to emanresu
quote:Josh Heupel was at UCF from 2018-2020. His teams finished 6th, 5th, and 8th in scoring offense in those 3 years. He goes to Tennessee in 2021 and they go from 108th to 9th!!! A hundred spot jump in one year. They lost a shite ton of transfers as well.
against pee-wee teams. congrats on beating up 2 stars
Denbrock's offense has finished top 25 in scoring 3 of the past 4 years. This year is his best yet as he has a RB with nearly 1300 yards and 19 TDs on 6.2 yards per carry, but he also has a QB that has nearly 3200 yards passing and 30 TDs averaging 9 yards per attempt. I don't think he gets it because it's Bama, but that QB needs 450 yards and 4 TDs to have 4000 total yards and 40 TDs on the season. I don't care if it's group of 5, you telling me you don't want an OC that just had a QB put up 4000 yards and 40 TDs in a season with a RB over 1300 yards and 20+ TDs?
For the record vs Notre Dame the QB had 297 pass yards 2 TD and 26 rush yards and 1 TD.
Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:16 pm to deuce985
quote:ehh, I don't think it's "that" reliant on it. Their top 3 pass catchers were still wide receivers and 4 of their top 6 were WRs. From games I've seen, I still see a base 3 WR set, and they do run a lot of RPO. Either way I think they'll sling the ball a lot more here because they have the skill talent they they could never accumulate at Notre Dame.
Main issue with Denbrock's scheme is the reliance on TEs. I don't believe LSU has a true one on the roster now so they may need the transfer portal. He also has sets with 3 TEs. Unless we omit these parts completely from the scheme(which is possible with BK) I think they will target a TE in the portal to go with Bech's star making ability receiving. BK is known to adapt a scheme and Denbrock has been around long enough to adjust his scheme also. Just fyi Gilbert is a complete dumbass leaving LSU. He could've feasted in a scheme like this next year.
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