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re: Coach O from a Tennessee Fan's Perspective.

Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by ole orange
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:32 pm to
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You could argue that there is no guarantee little Kiffen will last long enough to give the DC job to O down the road


Fair enough. However you could also argue the same about Miles.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:35 pm to
What I can't figure out is why Tennessee would want Orgeron to become their DC when Monte Kiffin retires.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:35 pm to
OK then we're all even there?

I would say a coach fresh off a NC has more job security than a smug little shite like Kiffen who got the job because his daddy came as a package deal.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:39 pm to
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You could argue that there is no guarantee little Kiffen will last long enough to give the DC job to O down the road




Fair enough. However you could also argue the same about Miles.


Since when are we promising DC in waiting?
Posted by ole orange
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:49 pm to
Well based on what some LSU fans think of Les, Im only saying that O could experience a coaching change at LSU too.
Posted by ole orange
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:53 pm to
Look, as I said on Volnation, no one really knows what is going to happen except for Ed himself. This is all speculation at this point. Both fanbases don't know, they just say what they want to hear.

By the Way, we would love to have some more Cajun perspectives on Volnation.com!
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:55 pm to
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By the Way, we would love to have some more Cajun perspectives on Volnation.com!


BTW, only a small portion of LSU's fanbase and Louisiana in general are actually cajun's.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:56 pm to
If its UT I'd expect the news to come down in the next 24 hours because O and UT's season is over. Why the hold up? The longer it plays the more confident about him coming here I'll be.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:59 pm to
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If its UT I'd expect the news to come down in the next 24 hours because O and UT's season is over. Why the hold up? The longer it plays the more confident about him coming here I'll be.


:kige:
Posted by Tigercat
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:00 am to
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Look, as I said on Volnation, no one really knows what is going to happen except for Ed himself. This is all speculation at this point. Both fanbases don't know, they just say what they want to hear.


Our in the know people were calling Chavis and O back when Clemson "insiders" were sure they would get Chavis and Tenn "insiders" were sure they would get O.
Posted by ole orange
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:03 am to
I don't really see how Clemson "insiders" fit into this, but at least Tennessee "insiders" haven't been proven wrong yet.
Posted by Tigercat
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:07 am to
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I don't really see how Clemson "insiders" fit into this, but at least Tennessee "insiders" haven't been proven wrong yet.


Oh? He was in the bag weeks ago according to the Tenn people that are suppose to be in the know. Yet since then, there has been more signs in public of him going to LSU than Tennessee. (Watching the HS championships with Miles, saying he was interested in the job in the press, telling his friends and family he wants to coach in Louisiana, ect.)

So I would say the LSU insiders this time around are batting 1.000 so far, and the Tennessee insiders? Not so much.
This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 12:09 am
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:08 am to
another legit point brought up in another thread
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Ask your Vol fan buddies how in the hell a DCIW makes any sense. For this scenario to play out Monte would have to install and run his Tampa 2 defense for i'm guessing 3 years or so and then turn the reigns over to a guy who has never run that defense before in his life.


Sure sounds like a dumb move

just handing over the defensive playbook worked out pretty well for us this season
This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 12:10 am
Posted by Tigercat
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:12 am to
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Sure sounds like a dumb move


Not to mention that Monte himself will have to learn on the fly. Not that he can't do it, but college has much more limited athletes that Monte will have to learn to adjust to. As opposed to the NFL where its easier to find players that you can fit in specific schemes.

A guy like Chavis, though he is probably an inferior defensive mind to Monte, would be an easier guy to learn how to be a college DC under.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:14 am to
rod marinelli learned a lot in his 10 years under Kiffen
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:15 am to
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As opposed to the NFL where its easier to find players that you can fit in specific schemes.


not to mention you won't get the benefit of having guys like rhonda barber, derrick brooks, etc. stick around for years and years
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:19 am to
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Not to mention that Monte himself will have to learn on the fly. Not that he can't do it, but college has much more limited athletes that Monte will have to learn to adjust to. As opposed to the NFL where its easier to find players that you can fit in specific schemes.


I think the limited practice time is the biggest issue in Kiffin being able to implement his defensive scheme. He's not dealing with 8 year NFL veterans, he's dealing with a teamfull of rookies. It's not a guarantee that Kiffin's success will translate.
Posted by ole orange
Brentwood/Knoxville
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:21 am to
It is spelled K-I-F-F-I-N.

But like I said, both fanbases are saying what they want to hear, no one really knows except for Ed. I guess we will find soon.
Posted by tigerman24
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 2:08 am to
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But wouldn't it be up to Chavis who is brought on?


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/30/08 at 3:19 am to
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BTW, only a small portion of LSU's fanbase and Louisiana in general are actually cajun's.






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