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Posted on 11/10/25 at 10:57 am to UpToPar
He even has experience taking over a Brian Kelly coached team. 
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:16 am to UpToPar
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Interesting that you are willing to take a chance on coordinators without HC experience but are cold on Freeman who was probably a better coordinator than the ones you listed AND he has HC experience. Freeman has lost a few games he wasn't supposed to, but he is likely looking at his second playoff appearance in as many years and made the NC game last year.
True. He would not make me melt if hired. I just think he (like BK) has been made to look better with Denbrock. He'd need a stud OC. He could probably land one, but Denbrock fell in his lap.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:19 am to jcole4lsu
quote:Go frick yourself, its just my opinion a-hole
hen you are a fricking retard.
if getting a coach as good as him would cause you to melt then just stay over on the rant and let the adults talk. He's not my first choice but "melt" sure as hell aint the correct response.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:31 am to Bongi
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Why won't Kiff happen?
Because you touch yourself at night.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:40 am to UpToPar
Have yall not learned your lessons? Coaches from ND look way better than they are.
You play nobody and then have a well rested team in the playoff. And freeman is EVEN WORSE than BK, hes lost to the only teams with a fricking pulse hes played this year and STILL gets the benefit of the doubt.
You play nobody and then have a well rested team in the playoff. And freeman is EVEN WORSE than BK, hes lost to the only teams with a fricking pulse hes played this year and STILL gets the benefit of the doubt.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:51 am to clamdip
So you, and others view Cignetti, as a "slam dunk".
Why?
Try looking past the box score. Who have they beaten that leads you believe that Cignetti is the guy to outcoach top tier SEC coaches.
IU has risen to the top of the Big 10 for two reasons.
1. Of the 4 NC winning programs in that conference 3 of them are down. Michigan, PSU and USC.
2. Scheduling. In an 18 team league you can go years without playing certain opponents.
In 2024 IU faced two of the conferences top programs.
Michigan & Ohio State
Michigan's offense was historically bad and IU eeked out a 5pt win at home.
The got boatraced by OSU by 20+ points.
They went 11-2 against arguably the Big 10s softest schedule and made the playoffs.
In the playoffs they got boatraced by ND who was up 27-7 before IU scored 10 points in garbage time.
This year IU was scheduled to play two of the conferences top 5 teams. Oregon & PSU.
Their signature win came against Oregon who needed OT to beat a down PSU team and almost lost to Saturday to Iowa.
IU needed a miracle drive to beat a 5 loss PSU program who had fired their HC and had also lost their starting QB fir the rest of the season.
Did you notice that IU got two TOs in PSU territory that accounted for 1/2 their 27 points.
IU will play OSU in the Big 10 championship game. They'll get boatraced again. I say that because if you watched them against PSU it continued the Cignetti trend. They beat up on cans but can't really stand in against power teams.
So your "slam dunk" candidate basically has beaten 1 team that could remotely be considered good. Their remaining conference schedule comprises of teams that have a combined conference record of 2-23.
The cherry on top of IU's schedule has to be that on top of a soft conf schedule IU opened the season with games against:
Old Dominion
Kennesaw State
Indiana State
So I guess I close with again asking what has Cignetti actually done that makes him a "slam dunk"?
Why?
Try looking past the box score. Who have they beaten that leads you believe that Cignetti is the guy to outcoach top tier SEC coaches.
IU has risen to the top of the Big 10 for two reasons.
1. Of the 4 NC winning programs in that conference 3 of them are down. Michigan, PSU and USC.
2. Scheduling. In an 18 team league you can go years without playing certain opponents.
In 2024 IU faced two of the conferences top programs.
Michigan & Ohio State
Michigan's offense was historically bad and IU eeked out a 5pt win at home.
The got boatraced by OSU by 20+ points.
They went 11-2 against arguably the Big 10s softest schedule and made the playoffs.
In the playoffs they got boatraced by ND who was up 27-7 before IU scored 10 points in garbage time.
This year IU was scheduled to play two of the conferences top 5 teams. Oregon & PSU.
Their signature win came against Oregon who needed OT to beat a down PSU team and almost lost to Saturday to Iowa.
IU needed a miracle drive to beat a 5 loss PSU program who had fired their HC and had also lost their starting QB fir the rest of the season.
Did you notice that IU got two TOs in PSU territory that accounted for 1/2 their 27 points.
IU will play OSU in the Big 10 championship game. They'll get boatraced again. I say that because if you watched them against PSU it continued the Cignetti trend. They beat up on cans but can't really stand in against power teams.
So your "slam dunk" candidate basically has beaten 1 team that could remotely be considered good. Their remaining conference schedule comprises of teams that have a combined conference record of 2-23.
The cherry on top of IU's schedule has to be that on top of a soft conf schedule IU opened the season with games against:
Old Dominion
Kennesaw State
Indiana State
So I guess I close with again asking what has Cignetti actually done that makes him a "slam dunk"?
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:57 am to Lurker1
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So I guess I close with again asking what has Cignetti actually done that makes him a "slam dunk"?
Counterpoint to all that typing you did:
It's Indiana. INDIANA. Go inform yourself about IU's football history. Then report back.
And they are mostly destroying their B1G competition. The best part of your diatribe is you trying to discount their 10-point win at Oregon. Oregon, led by the guy most are fawning over, Lanning.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:01 pm to gatordmb89
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As an opposing fan
These are the takes that interest me
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:09 pm to clamdip
I didn't discount their win Oregon. In fact I mentioned it. I just don't think Oregon is that good. More of a trick pony than anything else.
I know IU's football history well enough to know that they're the all time losingest program in NCAA history. Cignetti has certainly elevated that program but as I pointed out weak scheduling plays a part in that. Clark Lea has beaten more top 25 teams this year than Cignetti has played in 2 years at IU. But Cignetti is a "slam dunk" and Lea just doesn't do anything for you. Got it.
BTW, refresh my memory. On the side of Indiana football helmet does it say "Indiana" or "IU"?
I know IU's football history well enough to know that they're the all time losingest program in NCAA history. Cignetti has certainly elevated that program but as I pointed out weak scheduling plays a part in that. Clark Lea has beaten more top 25 teams this year than Cignetti has played in 2 years at IU. But Cignetti is a "slam dunk" and Lea just doesn't do anything for you. Got it.
BTW, refresh my memory. On the side of Indiana football helmet does it say "Indiana" or "IU"?
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:22 pm to clamdip
Joey Mcguire
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:22 pm to clamdip
Not interested in either of the GT coaches if they want to run the QB 20+ times a game.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:26 pm to clamdip
Get Eric Morris and hire the best offensive assistants available. Keep Frank for recruiting.
Keep Baker, Corey and Peoples. I like Kyle Williams, but the DTs have been average. Hire Mathieu to coach safeties or at least get him on staff in some capacity.
Keep Baker, Corey and Peoples. I like Kyle Williams, but the DTs have been average. Hire Mathieu to coach safeties or at least get him on staff in some capacity.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:28 pm to Lurker1
I discount Clark Lea because he was woeful before getting Jerry Kill to help out and Kill brought along Pavia in the package. Jerry Kill is a proven winner. Clark Lea still has more to prove imo.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:32 pm to Clockwatcher68
My question on Joey McGuire is how does he fare when he's not out spending fellow conference members at a 5-1 ratio.
Also scheduling. Shooting a Big XII scheduling is one thing (easy). Shooting an SEC schedule is orders of magnitude more difficult. Talent is more evenly dispersed than the Big XII.
Heck BYU was undefeated and their QB was a true freshman who honestly isn't a good passer. Tech simply defended the run at all costnand said that guy can't beat us passing the ball.
Utah is about the only team in that conference that poses match-up issues for Tech.
Also scheduling. Shooting a Big XII scheduling is one thing (easy). Shooting an SEC schedule is orders of magnitude more difficult. Talent is more evenly dispersed than the Big XII.
Heck BYU was undefeated and their QB was a true freshman who honestly isn't a good passer. Tech simply defended the run at all costnand said that guy can't beat us passing the ball.
Utah is about the only team in that conference that poses match-up issues for Tech.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:38 pm to clamdip
Fair enough on Lea but I would add that a major part of being a good head coach is hiring good coordinators. The job thesedays is just too big for a HC to also run a side of the ball. As a HC you hire good people, set the culture and oversee the operation.
In last year's national championship game the 4 coordinators were Jim Knowles, Chip Kelly, Mike Denbrock and Al Golden. All of those guys were top shelf hires.
Go look at Saban's hires. He was a great head coach but he hired excellent coordinators who ran the day 2 day operation.
In last year's national championship game the 4 coordinators were Jim Knowles, Chip Kelly, Mike Denbrock and Al Golden. All of those guys were top shelf hires.
Go look at Saban's hires. He was a great head coach but he hired excellent coordinators who ran the day 2 day operation.
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:52 pm to Sleepy_Tiger
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Go frick yourself, its just my opinion a-hole
I support your opinion and also because.... why is a grown azz man afraid to be bald??? This man paints his forehead more than LBJ.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 1:00 pm to Lurker1
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Fair enough on Lea but I would add that a major part of being a good head coach is hiring good coordinators.
Agree 100%. That's been painfully obvious watching DiNardo's coordinator hires. Some good, some atrocious. Kelly hired Denbrock but also Matt House. Sloan was a terrible decision. Saban seems to be the only one who did it consistently over many years.
Posted on 11/10/25 at 1:05 pm to Sleepy_Tiger
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would cause a major melt with me.
Is that you, Representative Duke?
Posted on 11/10/25 at 1:06 pm to Johnny Carson
Why you spying on me?
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