re: Candidates for OC if Coach O gets the job?

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If we keep Orgeron, then it's Ensminger or Craig. Nobody on any hot-lists would come here under O.

This isn't a personal attack on Orgeron, it's an attack on the administration and program. If you're going to nuke Miles in mid-season "just because", you have no long-term vision or plan in place when you do it, and you just decide to keep the interim guy around because he did what Miles would have done, then the program is in huge disarray. Nobody will want to get caught up in that.
Certainly not Kiffin, if anything he would stay at Bama, wait for LSU to go up in flames, and then consider the HC job once Alleva gets canned.

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Oregeron could make 10 phone calls in 10 mins to 10 different people and would land a better OC candidate than Craig or Ensminger. GTFO

Why would Kiffin want to come to LSU as an OC? Makes no sense to me. Maybe they could get Mike Martz...

Orgeron's second season at Ole Miss (2006), Dan Werner was named OC and QB coach.

Dan Werner is currently still Hugh Freeze's Co-OC and QB coach at Ole Miss

Oregeron named Matt Luke his co-OC and OL coach in 2007.

Matt Luke is still coaching at Ole Miss today for Hugh Freeze.

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And BTW Why are so many here so sure that if COE gets the hc job that Aranda is gone?
Why possibly would he leave or not be retained by EdO?

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People aren't saying he would leave this year. Just that he will get a shot in the NFL at some point and he will probably take the leap. I don't think that has anything to do with the head coach position, Aranda was always going to be at LSU only for a few years if he was successful.

It seems to me that he'll try to go with someone with whom he already has a relationship so Kiffin and Sark are the headliners but Werner seems much more likely.

Getting Ole Miss' OC and QB coach doesn't seem to be a bad thing to me...

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If you listen to the 104.5 Morning show, they'll tell you Kiffin is a guarantee to come here

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Awesome. Now I can rule them out as having any credibility whatsoever.

You don't think LSU is the caliber of football program to attract a top flight OC?

Since many believe it is good enough to attract an outstanding head coach, why can't we say the same thing for an OC, if Coach O gets the job?

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So, tell me- how do YOU feel Orgeron is doing the opposite

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Orgeron has done what Miles rarely did, he has beaten teams the way LSU should beat them.

The team hasn't fallen asleep and played down to the competition, the are well prepared to play.

Even against Bama there were plays to be made and the coaching and game plan put the players in that positions. At that point the players have to play.

O and the rest can't block for them or complete wide open passes for them.

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You don't think LSU is the caliber of football program to attract a top flight OC?

Since many believe it is good enough to attract an outstanding head coach, why can't we say the same thing for an OC, if Coach O gets the job?

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Because those are two separate things, and things don't exist in a vacuum.

The fact of the matter is this: Les Miles won a national title, played for another, won several SEC titles, won at a 75% clip here, and placed a ton of guys into the NFL. His worst full seasons were 8-5, he's never went .500 or below.
We fired him 4 games into the season, with a huge buyout.

That's bold, to say the least, but it works out if you have someone else in mind, someone big, and you get him.

But if you do that without any plan, if you just knee-jerk fire your winningest ever coach, name Orgeron interim, and then just decide he's "good enough" despite one of the worst offensive showings ever in the one big game (home vs #1) he has, that looks idiotic. Orgeron doesn't have the resume Miles had. He was awful at Ole Miss, while the previous 2 coaches before and the 2 following have all led Ole Miss to multiple bowls. He was 6-2 as interim at USC, which isn't shocking either- that's what that accumulation of talent should have done.


If I was an up-and-comer, I'd stay away from LSU if they keep Orgeron. Because the athletic department and administration would be shown to have no vision, no idea where they want to go, and has shown they react on the emotion of the day, instead of planning long-term. That's a way to ruin a lot of careers, and there are going to be other, more stable jobs available.