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re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy Recommendation & Discussion Thread

Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:40 pm to
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Anyone ever read the Dagger and the Coin series by Daniel Abraham?


It's a very solid series, it's worth reading. Daniel Abraham's Long Price Quartet is quite good as well.



Thanks. I’ll put both on my list


Just curious, is there a fantasy series you haven’t read?

Seriously with work and kids, I struggle to read 2 books a month. It seems like you’ve read everything. I wish I could be more proficient.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Just curious, is there a fantasy series you haven’t read?

Seriously with work and kids, I struggle to read 2 books a month. It seems like you’ve read everything. I wish I could be more proficient.



I know it probably seems that way I guess, but mainly it is a combination of I've been reading fantasy for a long time, I am an extremely fast reader, and most importantly I don't have kids (and my uncle duties are limited since I live too far away from my nieces unfortunately). Gives me lots of reading time in addition to all my other hobbies. Plus I'm a rare high school teacher that doesn't coach at the moment and doesn't spend a ton of time during the summer teaching summer school or at trainings.

But I still find probably one series every couple months on this board that I haven't read (or many times heard of). Typically some person will suggest 3-4 authors I like and then occasionally someone I don't know.

From this thread alone Jonathan Renshaw and Nicholas Eames are two authors I picked up and read. Guys like the "We are Bob" author, Rob Hayes, and Alec Hutson (crimson queen) are people I probably would have never found without reading these boards.

Lately I've found a ton of authors by using kindle unlimited and searching through a couple best of kindle unlimited fantasy threads on reddit (a ton of medicore stuff to sift through, but much good stuff as well).

Many new fantasy guys with a ton of talent are on KU, which has had me read a bunch of really good series by authors I might not have tried otherwise. Folks like Will Wight, Alec Hutson, Rob J Hayes, Dennis E. Taylor, Kel Kade, David A. Wells, Jonathan Renshaw, and Drew Hayes are all great authors I read through KU over the past year.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Captain Ray
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 10:10 pm to
I just finished "The Dawning of Power" trilogy by Brian Rathbone. Pretty good fantasy series. Think I'll check out his other stuff. I gave them 4 stars and for me that means they were well worth the read.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8962 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:54 pm to
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After looking these up, i'm between Broken Earth and Three Body problem..


on 2nd broken earth book. I didn't realize how short the first was and wasn't paying attention til I looked and had read 97%.

I do not love it yet, but its been interesting. Took me a minute to understand the viewpoints tying together but now its fine.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:27 pm to
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I do not love it yet, but its been interesting. Took me a minute to understand the viewpoints tying together but now its fine.


I thought the same, good / interesting Book 1 but nothing groundbreaking. Book 2 I thought was far better and one of the more interesting recent fantasy books I've read. Book 3 was also very good.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38203 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:14 pm to
Been overloaded at work so I come home and crash earlier than I usually do so I havent finished His Dark Materials yet

Really like it though. I've thankfully never watched The Golden Compass movie.

I looked at the cast for HBO's His Dark Materials and it has Lyra but it does not list her daemon Pantalaimon, just another young boy. Thats going to be pretty disappointing if they use just another regular kid instead of Pantalaimon.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9171 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:10 pm to
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I looked at the cast for HBO's His Dark Materials and it has Lyra but it does not list her daemon Pantalaimon, just another young boy. Thats going to be pretty disappointing if they use just another regular kid instead of Pantalaimon.


I don't think there is a realistic way to do the Dark Materials (and the sequels) story without daemons playing a major role. Several plot points later on simply wouldn't make sense, so I don't think you have much to worry about there.
Posted by wordsmith
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
38 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 4:58 pm to
I thought Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennett was a fairly unique fantasy novel, and I would recommend it for people looking for fantasy that's a bit different from typical high fantasy worldbuilding.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:25 am to
I bought Arcanum Unbounded by Sanderson while in the airport because I forgot to bring anything from my stash with me-
anyone read it?



Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19233 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:52 pm to
Safehold series by Dave Weber. Best series I’ve ever read. I re-read the whole thing every time a new book comes out
Posted by alphamicro
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2012
542 posts
Posted on 7/4/19 at 10:53 am to
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I re-read the whole thing every time a new book comes out
Very impressive. Only other readers of the series will immediately know it, but that's a LOT of reading. Hats off to you!
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2343 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 5:31 pm to
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Unfortunately book 3 ended on a bit of a cliffhanger and Lynch has shown no sign of finishing another book.


Lynch's twitter

Lynch said in May that he had finished the first draft so maybe we will get it in 2020. At least he is still working on it.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:46 am to
That is exciting, wasn't as in love with Republic of Thieves as I was the first two books - but it definitely set up some cool prospects for the future.

Red Seas and Lies were both incredible I thought though with Red Seas getting the slight edge for me.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by My2ndFavCivilNgineer
Member since Jun 2013
588 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:28 pm to
Just started Way of Kings(Stormlight Archives)

I must say I wasn't crazy about books 1 & 2 of the First Law series.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:18 am to
I loved his writing style and the characters, but Books 1 and 2 really didnt have the punch I was looking for or seem to deliver a real conclusion at the end - definitely kind of leaves you expecting more.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:35 am to
Sooo. Cant fall back asleep and figured I'd make a post about first law trilogy.

Potential spoilers below:


Really loved the characters and his writing style but the series sort of felt incomplete for some reason. Maybe because the Bayaz conflict feels unresolved, ferro as well considering how she left it, gurkish arc felt secondary to the northmen / method based on how much time was spent on each. Really, it feels like Logan was the only one that had the kind of resolution to his inner conflict he was looking for.

Is the whole world supposed to be one overarching storyline with the other additional books? are those heavily tied in to this opening trilogy in some fashion?

I get his overall theming with how in the end the "good guys" are sort of pushed out of control, Bayaz end up being who he was hinted at in spots throughout the trilogy.

I'd be curious to hear who sort of writer abercrombie is in terms of outlining vs. Just seeing where the story takes him. It feels like he developed and wrote the characters but the story seems almost secondary, not that it was bad, it just kind of seemed to a see stop.

Anyone else feel the same?
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 5:12 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 9:02 am to
I kind of felt the same at first but after thinking about it, I really liked the ending. It felt like it fit the overall theme that there are really no good guys and the cycle of violence doesn’t stop just because one conflict is resolved or one war was won.

Another point, I’d love a stand alone book IR series getting deeper into Ferro’s backstory and what she did after acquiring the seed.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9171 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Is the whole world supposed to be one overarching storyline with the other additional books? are those heavily tied in to this opening trilogy in some fashion?


Spoilerish discussion below about first law:





Yes, all of his other books in that world continue the storyline, they are directly tied in. The whole series is about proxies, with Bayaz and Khalul having their battles over time using others. This background storyline continues in all the other books. And I think the one off books are his best work, though I'm not sure if it is because his writing style fits single books better rather than a trilogy, or if he's just improved much more over time as a writer (more likely).

It's interesting that you mention the outlining process with Abercrombie, as his most recent trilogy that is coming out starting in Sept he actually wrote the entire trilogy before publishing a single book, to make sure the entire thing held together well. Abercrombie used to post on the asoiaf.westeros.org message board back in the day, and was pretty open about discussing his series and writing process.
This post was edited on 8/10/19 at 10:53 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 7:14 pm to
First law spoilery discussion continued.

It definitely fit with the theming and build up of the story, lots of foreshadowing especially with Bayaz.

It just felt incomplete by not really getting a whole lot of info on the enemy, just an "oh shite the gurkish are coming" and then they got there and then it was over so fast.

But if the stand-alones and other trilogy tie together in some way and continue and over-arching storyline then it makes more sense. I just didnt know if those were actual main stories or more side / secondary stories.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9171 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 11:17 pm to
First law spoilerish stuff continued:


quote:

It just felt incomplete by not really getting a whole lot of info on the enemy, just an "oh shite the gurkish are coming" and then they got there and then it was over so fast.


Ahh, if it was the lack of info on the Gurkish you didn't like that really doesn't get settled in the three stand alones. They tend to focus on side stories with the big battle between Bayaz and Khalul being in the background, and they tend to focus more on Bayaz being the grey character background baddie.

The Heroes is the book most connected to the plot since it follows the story of what happens between the North and the Union after the trilogy. But you shouldn't have complaints about loose ends so much with the three stand alones, as they do a good job wrapping up their individual threads.
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