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Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:26 am to
Posted by tigervet4
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:26 am to
I would call the three stand alone novels a must read if you enjoy the First Law Trilogy. I enjoyed all of them and Heroes in particular.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:56 am to
It's not so much of lack of info on the gurkish, just not really getting an idea of the "other side" of what ended up being the main conflict I guess so it just didnt feel complete to me.

Hopefully the 2nd trilogy will expand on that, I just didnt realize going in that the world / story was that much bigger than these three books
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:17 am to
But, to shift gears, I finally got around to Dune and was wondering if i need to read all of the Frank Hebert books in the series - through Chapterhouse:Dune
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:44 am to
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But, to shift gears, I finally got around to Dune and was wondering if i need to read all of the Frank Hebert books in the series - through Chapterhouse:Dune



It really depends I guess, the first book is one of the best sci fi books of all time of course, but the rest are all over the place and kinda depends on the tastes of the reader. I thought the second and third books were solid but not amazing.

I didn't like the 4th book at all and found it a chore to read through (it is a very philosophical book about what happens if you are immortal, but unlike say in Malazan it's not just part of the story, it's almost the entire plot of the book). I know people who like the 4th book the most of any of them though, it could just depend on if you want an entire book of rambling philosophy.

I thought the 5th and 6th books were great, and they are my favorites after the 1st book, unfortunately he died before he could finish the storyline he set up with book 4 and started in 5 and 6.

So I'd say they are worth reading when you have time and are in the mood, but not something you should rush out to read.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:50 am to
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unfortunately he died before he could finish the storyline he set up with book 4 and started in 5 and 6.


Well that is disappointing. I may finish up the last two hyperion books after Dune, or knock out another book in my Wheel of Time re-read while deciding what series to hit next.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:09 pm to
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I would call the three stand alone novels a must read if you enjoy the First Law Trilogy. I enjoyed all of them and Heroes in particular.


I thought all three standalones were great. Red Country was my favorite because I am sentimental

New series (The Age of Madness #1) book #1 A Little Hatred available Sept 17th

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Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:24 pm to
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The new series takes place some 25-30 years after the end of Last Argument of Kings, thus 12-17 years after Red Country. It’s set mainly in The Union and The North, with the Circle of the World is now moving rapidly into the turmoil of early industrialization. We've already seen that cannons, the printing press, the coal fire piston, and the mobile forge have all been invented.


Interesting, definitely going to see a lot of that sort of setting moving forward in fantasy I think. I really think that at some point sort of blended sci fi / fantasy settings, like Dune, will become very prominent.

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According to his latest blog post, he has now drafted all three books, redrafted the first book, and is working with the editors towards publication. He makes no promises, but is targetting publication on 19 September 2019.
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Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 7:52 pm to
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I thought all three standalones were great. Red Country was my favorite because I am sentimental


Red country is by far my favorite too, but I love westerns. And an Abercrombie twisted version of Shane hits all the right notes for me. Though I'm weird in that I like Best served cold better than the heroes, I love some Count of Monte Cristo style revenge stuff too.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:05 pm to
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Interesting, definitely going to see a lot of that sort of setting moving forward in fantasy I think. I really think that at some point sort of blended sci fi / fantasy settings, like Dune, will become very prominent.



There are a bunch of folks doing good work with these settings right now really.

Brian McClellan (Powder Mage series), John Hornor Jacobs (Incorruptibles series), Django Wexler (Shadow Campaigns series), Anthony Ryan (Draconis Memoria series), and Chris Wooding (Tales of the Ketty Jay series) all have excellent musket/gunpowder era or slightly farther series out that are great.

Will Wight has his Cradle series which is a blend of fantasy and sci fi exactly like you are talking about and is great. Mark Lawrence is very good, and his Broken Empire and Red Queen's war trilogies are a bit of a blend of sci fi and fantasy too, though they are more The Dark Tower or Thundarr the Barbarian mixed with the gritty fantasy world of Joe Abercrombie.

You are right in that it is becoming more and more popular.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 8:16 am to
Interesting, I'm going to be looking for a new series to start this weekend probably. I like to buy books I'm limited by what is in the bookstore or I try and find complete sets on Amazon for cheap - got First Law in the full size paperback for like $20 total, Broken Earth and Faith & Fallen were same deal for not much more.

Powder Mage, has been on my radar, Sanderson mentions how interesting its concept is in his writing lectures, but they are still like $15 each on Amazon so I'm waiting for them to put out a full set.

May look into that Mark Lawrence, have seen those mentioned on this board over the past year or so as well.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 6:49 pm to
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Powder Mage, has been on my radar


McClellan is awesome. I actually put off reading him and Django Wexler for a long time because musket era type books mixed with fantasy just didn't seem like a blend that would interest me all that much, but I was dead wrong and loved both.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 7:31 pm to
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I actually put off reading him and Django Wexler for a long time because musket era type books mixed with fantasy just didn't seem like a blend that would interest me all that much, but I was dead wrong and loved both.


+1. They were excellent reads.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 12:39 pm to
Fun Fact, McLellan was a student in Brandon Sanderson's writing course that has videos online.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 9:01 am to
Anyone read Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A. Heinlein?

Picked it up yesterday and am going to dig into it tonight, was recommended by a friend who said its one of his favorite sci-fi books.
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:33 pm to
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I thought Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennett was a fairly unique fantasy novel, and I would recommend it for people looking for fantasy that's a bit different from typical high fantasy worldbuilding.


I've enjoyed all of Bennett's books. He has some really great world-building in all of them -- I guess it's more speculative fiction than high fantasy. I would think fans of the Broken Earth trilogy would enjoy his Divine Cities Trilogy and American Elsewhere.

Claire North has written some really good speculative fiction, especially the First Fifteen Lives of Harry August and her Gameshouse Novellas.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 7:47 am to
I've gotten through about 200 pages in Stranger in a Strange Land and it is phenomenal. Now that I've gotten a few of the older sci-fi books under my belt, it seems like a lot of them have similar pacing.

Not a lot of description but excellent plot movement jumping from one scene to the next. The book poses some cool philosophical questions and I love the authors tone. Definitely recommend.

Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:33 am to
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on 2nd broken earth book. I didn't realize how short the first was and wasn't paying attention til I looked and had read 97%. I do not love it yet, but its been interesting. Took me a minute to understand the viewpoints tying together but now its fine.


Finished 3rd and final book of Broken Earth. Glad its over. Was NOT for me, at all. Third book was a chore.

Not sure whats next on my list, may take a break and read some stand alones
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 10:03 am to
I finished Stranger in a Strange Land and loved it, but it is a kind of a weird, quasi-philosophical sci fi book so may not be for you (I say that cause I feel that Broken Earth had a lot of those same elements).

Picked up Fools Prince by Mark Lawrence and finished last night, more of a straight-forward fantasy book in a trilogy and I really enjoyed it. The main two characters have a great dynamic which really drives the story. Under 400 pages and is a pretty quick read.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8574 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:06 pm to
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he main two characters have a great dynamic


Yeah, Jalan and Snorri are great, I love me some Mark Lawrence. It's interesting that you are reading his second trilogy set in that world first (not a bad idea anyway IMO, as Jalan is a much more likeable and normal main character than Jorg from Broken Empire, who is very, very grey).

I love the setting of those books, but I'm a sucker for post apocalyptic fantasy.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:52 am to
Ya I didn't think they were connected, or even in the same world.

They aren't what I typically gravitate to in terms of limited magic, the sort of norse setting and all but thus far, both have definitely been real page turners.

Curious to get further in and see if the post apocalyptic setting and hints about the builders are just nods / easter eggs or whatever you want to call them or if what happened, etc. plays a larger role in the story to come.

Also did some googling and his next set of books, like red sister, grey sister, etc. looks intriguing to me, have you read it?
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