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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by Tigereye10005
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:46 am
Has anyone here read this newest Robert Langdon novel by Dan Brown? I just finished it and am curious what others thought.

I've always been a big Dan Brown fan. Angels and Demons is one of my all time favorite books, and the Da Vinci Code is certainly popular. I've read all of his books in this series and found them all to be page turners, but I was a little disappointed with this one.

I don't know, maybe it's just that the whole shtick of Robert Langdon getting caught in a puzzle that will redefine the way science and religion interact is played out, but I just didn't enjoy this one as much as I expected.

What are the board's thoughts?

ETA: hit enter too early the first time.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by Big Chipper
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:51 am to
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Posted by Tigereye10005
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:53 am to
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I know, right? But I fixed it. Hit enter too early the first time.
Posted by LordSnow
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 7:57 pm to
Probably my least fav Langdon story. You could see everything coming.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:33 pm to
Yep I completely agree. Guess we can't expect them all to be great.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:15 pm to
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I've always been a big Dan Brown fan.


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Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:08 pm to
I just got to the big event at the museum that is obviously going to start the rest of the story.

I actually really liked the buildup but fear it’s just going to be another Langdon running around some European country with a hot chick from here on out.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:15 pm to
I actually felt there was very little running around compared to the other books.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 1/20/18 at 5:16 pm to
Well that will be a nice change then
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:22 pm to
There's less running around than in other books, but essentially, yes that's what the rest of the book is.

There's not as much nuzzle solving and mysteries, etc. as in prior ones. Just not as good of a story. It was ok, but not great
Posted by sportsaddit68
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5844 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:17 pm to
I think the book excelled at the build up and imagery of the major announcement. It did an awesome job setting the stage. The stuff in between wasn't as satisfying as his others. I liked the secret they we're uncovering, and it seems plausible. But, like others have said, I knew several things were going on before they said them including who was behind the scenes feeding the press and such.

Overall, both my wife and me kinda got a finale vibe for Robert Langdon in the end. We were wondering if this was his last book in the series.

Spoilers:

So in Angels and Demons, one of the scientist at CERN made a comment about how for years science has been proving God's to be false. And before long there only this that will remain is why are we here and what are our purpose and such.

In Origin, the whole book was based on answering those last remaining questions. Kinda wraps up the whole thing nicely, but maybe I am looking into it too deep. But even my wife thought the same thing.

My next post will be the angels and demons quote I mentioned. Tell me of you think it's a good tie in..
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:22 pm to
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Mr. Langdon all questions were once spiritual. Since the beginning of time spirituality and religion have been called on to fill in the gaps that science did not understand. The rising and setting of the sun was once attributed to Helios and a flaming chariot. Earthquakes and tidal waves were the wrath of Poseidon. Science has now proven those gods to be false idols. Soon all gods will be proven to be false idols. Science has now provided answers to almost every question man can ask. There are only a few questions left and they are the esoteric ones. Where do we come from What are we doing here? What is the meaning of life and the universe?


This was from Angels and Demons. His first book, and towards the beginning of it. Now, after reading this and Origins... I am convinced it would be his last Langdon book.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:04 am to
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Now, after reading this and Origins... I am convinced it would be his last Langdon book.

Could be, it would tie in quite nicely. Also, the whole thing may be getting a bit stale. Ultimately, it will be about whether Brown just wants to keep cranking them out for the money. If he does, we could see a never ending saga of Robert Langdon.

I also found it a little absurd that all of these conspiracy nuts that were spending all night trying to connect dots and figure out what was going on never once focused on Langdon. I mean, at this point he's got to be a conspiracy nut wet dream. The dude has been involved in some earth shattering shite. If he's not already internationally famous, he would at least be famous in that community. But the whole book he's just mentioned as "the American Professor Robert Langdon" like he was some unknown entity. I thought that was dumb.

*SPOILERS FOR THIS BOOK AND ORIGIN (BY DAN BROWN) BELOW:



Also, the whole baby issue with Ambra and the Prince basically ignores the plot of Inferno. In this world where a full 1/3 of people are now infertile, it would be commonplace to ask anyone you're dating seriously whether or not they can have children. The fact that this wasn't done and that they invented some childhood event that caused her infertility is suspect. Would have at least made more sense for them to have her be infertile because of the Inferno virus. Would have been an easy thing to do and at least a tacit acknowledgment of the world that Brown has created.
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Member since Sep 2008
5844 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:02 am to
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Also, the whole baby issue with Ambra and the Prince basically ignores the plot of Inferno. In this world where a full 1/3 of people are now infertile, it would be commonplace to ask anyone you're dating seriously whether or not they can have children. The fact that this wasn't done and that they invented some childhood event that caused her infertility is suspect. Would have at least made more sense for them to have her be infertile because of the Inferno virus. Would have been an easy thing to do and at least a tacit acknowledgment of the world that Brown has created.


My Wife said the same thing almost. Dan Brown hardly ever connects the books to each other other than mentioning the Mickey Mouse Watch. But this seemed like the golden chance to say hey, for some reason I can't have kids and they think its because of a virus or something. Inferno is one of my favorite books because the bad guy actually wins. It pissed me off the movie didn't have the balls to let the virus go off.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:05 am to
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Inferno is one of my favorite books because the bad guy actually wins. It pissed me off the movie didn't have the balls to let the virus go off.

+1
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:14 pm to
My wife enjoyed the audiobook and wants me to listen to it. I’m not that intrigued really.

Angels and Demons is still my favorite from him.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:25 pm to
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My wife enjoyed the audiobook and wants me to listen to it. I’m not that intrigued really.



I will say that the narrator is pretty good. While the story isn't as good as A&D or DaVinci, I was still entertained in large part because of the narrator.
Posted by biglego
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76275 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 7:41 pm to
Narrator is crucial. A good narrator can make any book interesting. It really hammers home the power of a good speaking voice. I wish I had such a voice.

Anyway, I’ll get around to listening to it since it’s in my car staring at me everyday. I normally listen to Great Courses lectures. I own about 20 and love them.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Probably my least fav Langdon story. You could see everything coming.



I liked it more than Lost Symbol, but I agree with the second part.

He has gotten too formulaic. It wasn’t hard to see the final reveal coming. It was my initial suspicion and once you have that in mind, basically everything after confirms it.

Still an enjoyable read.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:23 pm to
I was also annoyed to see the fallout from Inferno basically ignored.
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