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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:30 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:30 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I lol'd
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:42 pm to Snatchy
Congrats on the 16000th post 
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:26 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Is the gif I posted in that Hodors' thread too spoilerish??
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:28 pm to ladytiger118
I didn't see it let me go real quick
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:36 pm to Byron Bojangles III
It's technically not a Hodor thread since it's about comparing the World Wars and GoT...I'm just assuming he is one based on his Dany comment. So am I cool for posting in it or am I on Coco's list?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:41 pm to ladytiger118
I'd say he's pretty close to done with the rough outline. Because she says she's read through tWoW and described it as amazing. She also said she knows Bran's end story. And the guy doing the graphic novels knows Tyrion's end story. But when she meets with the graphic novel guy they act like they don't know anything.
I'll put together some excerpts from her interview
I'll put together some excerpts from her interview
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:42 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
When will TWOW be released?
Answer from: Anne G.
"For TWOW, when I have a date, you will have a date. I’m now on Twitter, Del Rey Spectra has a number of social media platforms, and I promise you we will put the word out as soon as we know. All I can say is that George is hard at work, and we hope to have it reasonably soon. I currently have 168 pages that he submitted back in Feb 2013 in order to receive a contracted payment, but I know more exists, because he keeps talking about chapter he hasn’t yet sent me. In fact, when we wanted to put an exclusive excerpt on the A WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE app—a magnificent thing which you all should buy and use!—he suggested the second Tyrion chapter, which I then had to remind him was not in the sample I had."
Answer from: Anne G.
"For TWOW, when I have a date, you will have a date. I’m now on Twitter, Del Rey Spectra has a number of social media platforms, and I promise you we will put the word out as soon as we know. All I can say is that George is hard at work, and we hope to have it reasonably soon. I currently have 168 pages that he submitted back in Feb 2013 in order to receive a contracted payment, but I know more exists, because he keeps talking about chapter he hasn’t yet sent me. In fact, when we wanted to put an exclusive excerpt on the A WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE app—a magnificent thing which you all should buy and use!—he suggested the second Tyrion chapter, which I then had to remind him was not in the sample I had."
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:44 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Do you think it will take GRRM more then 7 books to finish ASOIAF?
Answer from: Anne G.
I begin to wonder—though 7 is what we currently have under contract. I remember when he called me, years and years back, to confess that his little trilogy was…well…no longer a trilogy. He predicted four books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he said five books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he went to six. I said… Well, you get it. Finally, we were on the same page. Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Good. Only, as I recently learned while editing THE WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE (another awesome thing you must buy when it comes out!), there are really technically eight kingdoms, all having to do with who has annexed what when Aegon the Conqueror landed in Westeros. So, maybe eight books for Seven Kingdoms would be okay. Also, he has promised me that, when he finally wraps this great beast us, I can publish the five page letter outlining the bare bones of the “trilogy.”
Answer from: Anne G.
I begin to wonder—though 7 is what we currently have under contract. I remember when he called me, years and years back, to confess that his little trilogy was…well…no longer a trilogy. He predicted four books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he said five books. I said Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Then he went to six. I said… Well, you get it. Finally, we were on the same page. Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms. Good. Only, as I recently learned while editing THE WORLD OF ICE AND FIRE (another awesome thing you must buy when it comes out!), there are really technically eight kingdoms, all having to do with who has annexed what when Aegon the Conqueror landed in Westeros. So, maybe eight books for Seven Kingdoms would be okay. Also, he has promised me that, when he finally wraps this great beast us, I can publish the five page letter outlining the bare bones of the “trilogy.”
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:45 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Why did you believe it was a wise decision to cut the three major battles from ADWD?
Answer from: Anne G.
Yes, the battles. Structurally, it would have been nice to have them. But there were two severe and real limitations. First, there are only so many pages you can actually physically bind between covers, and less than a handful of binderies out there who are actually capable of handling the larger books. When we wrapped ADWD—minus the battles—it was 1513 pages in manuscript. To include the battles… Well, we’d physically not have been able to bind it. We would have had to split it into two books, which would have felt even less satisfying. And it would probably still not be published yet, as he would STILL be writing. So we had to make a call to get the best book possible out of what actually existed at the time, which is what we did. Despite the lack of the battles, I am still really happy with it. And I know a lot of other people were, too.
Answer from: Anne G.
Yes, the battles. Structurally, it would have been nice to have them. But there were two severe and real limitations. First, there are only so many pages you can actually physically bind between covers, and less than a handful of binderies out there who are actually capable of handling the larger books. When we wrapped ADWD—minus the battles—it was 1513 pages in manuscript. To include the battles… Well, we’d physically not have been able to bind it. We would have had to split it into two books, which would have felt even less satisfying. And it would probably still not be published yet, as he would STILL be writing. So we had to make a call to get the best book possible out of what actually existed at the time, which is what we did. Despite the lack of the battles, I am still really happy with it. And I know a lot of other people were, too.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:47 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
We know that the producers of the TV show Game of Thrones know in broad strokes the ending of the main character arcs of A Song of Ice and Fire. Without giving anything away, do you know the ending, too?
Answer from: Anne G.
No. George is a very secretive fellow, and guards his secrets well. I do know a few things from AWOW, but mainly because we had to shorten a few elements in the book as it was already getting too long, and he had to reveal a few secrets so I could help him redirect parts of the plot a bit. I do know the endpoint of Bran’s story line—and Daniel Abraham, who has been adapting the graphic novel of AGOT for me, knows where Tyrion ends up. (I am jealous of that!) But much in the way all of you have been keeping secrets from show watchers who have not yet read the books (and I continue to be impressed by how secret you all kept the Red Wedding), I also will never tell what I know. George has somehow managed to swear us all to this amazing conspiracy of silence, which I admire and appreciate and fully participate in! I had a very amusing lunch with Daniel in which we very pointedly did not tell each other what the other one knew. In short, like you, I Keep George’s Secrets.
Answer from: Anne G.
No. George is a very secretive fellow, and guards his secrets well. I do know a few things from AWOW, but mainly because we had to shorten a few elements in the book as it was already getting too long, and he had to reveal a few secrets so I could help him redirect parts of the plot a bit. I do know the endpoint of Bran’s story line—and Daniel Abraham, who has been adapting the graphic novel of AGOT for me, knows where Tyrion ends up. (I am jealous of that!) But much in the way all of you have been keeping secrets from show watchers who have not yet read the books (and I continue to be impressed by how secret you all kept the Red Wedding), I also will never tell what I know. George has somehow managed to swear us all to this amazing conspiracy of silence, which I admire and appreciate and fully participate in! I had a very amusing lunch with Daniel in which we very pointedly did not tell each other what the other one knew. In short, like you, I Keep George’s Secrets.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:49 pm to ladytiger118
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Congrats on the 16000th post
Wow. I didn't even realize. What a repost waste.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:59 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
From what you've read about The Winds of Winter so far, and, without spoiling anything, how good do you think the book is compared to the others in the series?
Answer from: Anne G.
It’s amazing. In fact, when I first read the partial back in 2013, I immediately wrote George an impassioned plea to please not let the show get out ahead of him. I can’t predict what will happen from here, but I definitely want his version to be my first version. And I think a lot of you want that, too. His vision started this; I very much ant his vision to end it, too.
Answer from: Anne G.
It’s amazing. In fact, when I first read the partial back in 2013, I immediately wrote George an impassioned plea to please not let the show get out ahead of him. I can’t predict what will happen from here, but I definitely want his version to be my first version. And I think a lot of you want that, too. His vision started this; I very much ant his vision to end it, too.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:07 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Thanks for the info! Good stuff!
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:15 pm to ladytiger118
You should be good
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:24 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:08 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
I dunno, it all kinda just makes me butthurt. He writes this stuff and it gets to be too much. So they don't include things on purpose and push things off to the next book..why not just write the whole thing out to the very very end and stop. Then go back and see what fits into each book?
Just give us the straight story! I feel like we've only gotten pieces from the get-go.
Damn I'm butthurt.
Just give us the straight story! I feel like we've only gotten pieces from the get-go.
Damn I'm butthurt.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:16 pm to TaxmanMSU
I'm just hoping George has more than 168 completed pages as of May 2014...Hoping he has at least 600 done by now. I imagine TWoW will be ADWD-sized.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:08 am to ladytiger118
I just don't see how there is any possibility Martin stays ahead of the show.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:14 am to Samso
I know. 
Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:57 am to ladytiger118
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It's technically not a Hodor thread since it's about comparing the World Wars and GoT...I'm just assuming he is one based on his Dany comment. So am I cool for posting in it or am I on Coco's list?
We're ALL on Coco's list. His list is so long that if he wants to recite it before he goes to sleep at night he has to start before noon.
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