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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

“I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them.

“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered.

“Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell.

“When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.”

“Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.”

“I came down on Storm's End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”

“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne.

“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”

“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.

“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out.

“The Kingsguard does not flee.”

“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.

“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.

Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.

“And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.

“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”


those are my favorite lines in the entire series
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:28 pm to
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Then why werent the kingsguard with the king? More kingsguards to defend the crown prince's concubine/possible second wife than the actual king?


Because Jon is the King, you Hodor.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:36 pm to
Wut? Aery's was still alive when those 3 kingsguard ran off to the Tower of Joy wench.

At least i think he was.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:39 pm to
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Then why werent the kingsguard with the king? More kingsguards to defend the crown prince's concubine/possible second wife than the actual king?

The kingsguard is sworn to protect and obey the king's family - that includes the prince, the prince's girlfriend, and the prince's bastards.

If Prince Rheagar gave the kingsguard an order to protect Lyanna and her child, they would be sworn to do so with their lives.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:40 pm to
Yeah, but why did crazy paranoid Aerys let them go? His orders would supercede Rhaegar.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:48 pm to
Per Rhaegar's last conversation with Jaime it sounds like he was the one running things re. the Kingsguard.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:53 pm to
Their orders were to get Rhaegar, which they did. They then got new orders from Rhaegar, he left 3 at the Tower of Joy; took 3 to the Trident.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 2:57 pm to
Ahhhhh
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

those are my favorite lines in the entire series





yeah, mine too....
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:12 pm to
Those are great, but these are the best lines in the books:

quote:

My son Wendel came to the the Twins a guest. He ate Lord Walder's bread and salt, and hung his sword upon the wall to feast with friends. And they murdered him. Murdered, I say, and may the Freys choke upon their fables. I drink with Jared, jape with Symond, promise Rhaegar the hand of my own beloved granddaughter ... but never think that means I have forgotten. The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done. My son is home.[14]


That shite got me so pumped
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 3:18 pm
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Yeah, but why did crazy paranoid Aerys let them go? His orders would supercede Rhaegar.

The kingsguard were in the field following Rheagar's order, as he was leading the army. The only kingsguard held back was Jaime, which was at the command of crazy paranoid Aerys to keep Tywin in check (oops).
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 4:04 pm to
That scene is going to be so great to watch. Really looking forward to Davos's scenes next season .
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27813 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 4:27 pm to
me too!
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3107 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 5:15 pm to
yeah, I really loved that part, one of the best chapters in that book.

Then the "he would have grown up a Frey" line is classic as well
Posted by 19
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

The argument could be made that he was only after her dragons at that point, but I think that would be a weak argument.


Dude...you gotta think about their reactions to finding out the dragons hatched - they shite themselves, I bet. She and Viserys were little more than loose ends until then. They weren't after them as in to possess them, but having dragons changes war- brings it to a whole new level. I don't see how that argument could be weak in any way.

Yes, I agree that Faegon was plan A all the way...but the bitch hatching dragons made them hedge their bet at least.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
1863 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:50 pm to
Yeah its interesting how the dragons will play into their plans. It could expose Aegon as a fake if he is incapable of controlling them. Also Varys has said that he hates magic, so I wonder if he'll actually be opposed to the dragons or will try and use them. Then again, with Varys you never know what's a lie and what isn't.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:54 pm to
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It could expose Aegon as a fake if he is incapable of controlling them.


He could still have blood of the dragon even if he isn't Rhaegar's son.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:58 pm to
Blackfyre
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:34 pm to
I read that as "Backfyre"..
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:38 pm to
Well Varys's plan with Faegon will Backfyre on him... :cornyjoke:
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