Mr Eko

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kid and his family for some time, good people

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Casen is a pretty awesome dude

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works hard and plays hard

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the responses on here from both the internet choir boys and badasses are funny

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I'm not saying you are trash but these are classic trashy responses.... so maybe you are trash.... definitely probably trash.

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Quitting on your team this late reflects very poorly on the coach.

Nothing about the job changed in the 8 month offseason. If he was willing to accept the status quo back then, he should have accepted it now.

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What's your point? Of course it sucks for the kids but if you think any high school in the state wouldn't hire him at the drop of a hat next season you are crazy. I'm not here to judge the man one way or the other for resigning.

The point of my earlier post was to dispel any rumors about improper relationships because that's the way the thread was headed. He has a history with the administration and the parish school board. Everyone around the Mandeville program knew it was only a matter of time before he moved on.

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All this negative feedback about the Livingston hire has to come from kids that play Xbox and PlayStationand can't go back to see what his overall rating was as a player or its coming from people that know nothing about Randy Livingston. I guess that's what some people don't understand Livingston could barely run his knees were blown out so bad but yet he still made it 3 to 5 years playing in the NBA because of how smart he was as a basketball player

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What I have learned from this thread is that people have an emotional attachment to one of the most highly recruited players ever from Louisiana. Yes, I am old enough to remember him and his Newman days. However, just because he was a good player does not mean a damn thing as far him being a good coach. I have personally seen multiple former professional players that were horrible coaches at the high school level.

If everyone would take the purple and gold glasses off and remove your personal attachment to Randy Livingston, you would realize that this is not a good hire. If this was some random white guy who was a former player at Ole Miss (and a “coach on the court”) this board would be flipping out. Listen, I get it. This is like Leonard Fournette coming home and coaching LSU one day. People would be all warm and fuzzy on the inside just because the hero is back home.

However, I look at things differently because I am one of the few that still want to see the program succeed under Johnny or whoever the hell is the coach. The program isn’t dead yet but we are about one year away from that point. We still have some good talent but we have no recruits and no more David Patrick. We have never been a “well-coached” team under Johnny even though two years ago we had a former NBA head coach. This program needs need a defensive minded assistant that can cover up Johnny’s weaknesses. Also we still need a recruiter to replace David Patrick. This hire provides us neither. Maybe in the long run Randy could be either one of those guys but we don’t have time on our side. Johnny has to win today or him and Randy are gone.

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The dude like oversees the special olympics in Lafayette and is incredibly friendly.

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What does this have anything to do with him being a horrible AD? Because he is a horrible AD.

I noticed Bonine did that but I don't think it changes anything. Most public schools have dug their heels in on this.

People do not understand financially how these revenues work and the interests involved. Yes the LHSAA makes money but the membership by in large does not care about the money made by the association. They care about the money made by their schools. The more playoff games there are the more money that is made. So let's say for the sake of argument there was 100 (making that number up) playoff games. That was 100 schools that were making money. Now with more brackets there is 150 (once again making that number up) playoff games. Now 150 schools are making money off of those games. The playoff games are the money makers for schools because those are outside the budgets. And for a lot of schools were not talking very much money but still the principals care about that than however much the hell the LHSAA is making.

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you guys thinking publics can't survive - rural publics can survive fine - and many of the outer suburbs..

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Agreed. The public schools can and will survive on their own. It's a New Orleans/Baton Rouge view of public vs private way of thinking that gets posted on this site. The public schools that will suffer the most on the field are already suffering to function properly as schools much less sports programs. The dynamics of this whole thing are more than the common person understands. People is South Louisiana don't really grasp that 90% of North Louisiana does not care one single bit what would happen if private schools leave the association. That's a big portion that gets to vote on a "solution."

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and had they not forced eca and jc down we would not be having this discussion

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In hindsight the original force down or play in your classification move was a terrible move. There will be bad blood by every 1a and 2a public school forever because of that move.

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I saw some games early in the year of him missing badly from 20 yards and in.

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I went to the a couple of Mandeville games earlier in the year and the kid either missed an extra point or Field goal in every game that i saw. Mandeville lost to St Pauls because the kid missed two easy field goals. This kid has Wade Richey 2.0 written all over him.

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Once a Mauti hater, always a hater I guess.

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I thought we already established that Mauti fricked Lester Earl's sister when Mauti was in high school. Ole Lester has hated on him for about 10 years now ever since that happened.

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I never said coaching doesn't matter in high school football.

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Well you sure as hell implied it. You even took a shot at Curtis' coaching staff which is probably the best coaching staff in the state of Louisiana.

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Bill Belichick couldn't consistently coach Walker to 8 win seasons.

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So i guess this statement isn't supposed say that "coaching doesn't matter" either?

You are 100% wrong but I understand why you believe what you believe. I literally hear it every day from people who casually follow high school football. They complain to me almost everyday and can't understand why a school with as much talent as Covington High consistently loses (and loses big for that matter) to schools like St. Paul's and Mandeville High. High school football is a completely different beast than any other level of football and the casual follower doesn't understand.

The most talented team in the state of Louisiana year in and year out is St. Aug and its not even close. Nobody has had more kids sign D-1 scholarships as they have but yet they haven't won a state championship in 30 something years. Why is that? The answer is because at the high school level great coaching trumps great talent every time. Every year in the playoffs St. Aug's lack of coaching gets exposed.

High school football is not about the best player on the field its about the worst player on the field. The well coached teams make the worst player on the field for their team competitive at a high level. The end result is the well coached teams have no weaknesses.

I'm not going to use Bill Belichick as an example because that is so asinine that its not even worth a response. I'm going to use Mandeville High and its head coach Guy Lecompte as an example, if he went to Walker High School he would DEFINITELY average 8 wins a year. You know why that is true? Because he did exactly that at Mandeville. Mandeville had never been to the quarterfinals in school history before he got there and now he has done it 4 times. Thats just one example. Another example is what Steve Robicheaux has done at a "talented" school like Destrehan. Robicheaux won two state championships at Destrehan then left and low and behold they went straight into the shitter. Then magically he comes back and all of a sudden they are back in the state championship game but I guess it was all because because of talent and had nothing to do with Robicheaux.

Now listen, I know absolutely nothing about this Brandon Lawley guy so I'm not knocking him. The problem with hires like this one is that you have people making the decisions for schools that believe the same things that you do. That talent wins not coaching and a school like Walker can never win because of the lack of perceived talent. From the outside looking in it looks like they settled in house. If the OC at a better program like Central was seriously interested in that job, then that was definitely a bad hire. I feel bad for the kids in situations like these.