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Trump is the process
why are yall doing this, I dont understand you people, why do you do this to yourselves.

just this week the Special Master trump chose, plus 3 federal judges on the 11th circuit, 2 of whom trump appointed, said these docs are still classified. trumps lawyers do not dispute that. judge cannon, who trump also appointed, does not dispute that.

why do you think that is? do you think they never heard of this wish based declassification? you think your post about trump being the entire process isnt taught in law school? is the entire American legal system, including the people working for or appointed by trump, simply lying? you think theyre all wrong and your Facebook meme is rigth?
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Trump was the incumbent when he declassified the material in question.
youre so desperate to believe hes been holding crossfire docs this whole time, its pure fantasy, you just made it up, hes never done a single thing to ever give anyone that impression, never released a single page, never suggested he would, its pure message board fantasy.

i do not know why you people do this to yourselves, its the strangest god damn thing.
no surprise here but your entire premise is a lie. Obama never took anything, Obama never stored anything, everything he has for his library has been under the control of NARA since day 1. all of it. they're the ones that moved the docs to Chicago, theyre the ones who stored them in Chicago. this little thing youre doing where you act like both sides are the same is complete fricking fantasy.

statement from the National Archives

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Um ... here you go:

Obama Took a Cache of Classified Documents and Kept Them in an Abandoned Furniture Store
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The Obama Foundation stored classified documents in an abandoned furniture warehouse, according to a 2018 letter from the Obama Foundation to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

The letter, available on the Obama Foundation website and dated Sept. 11, 2018, reveals that the Obama Foundation not only acknowledged possessing classified documents but also admitted that they kept them in a facility that did not meet NARA standards for the storage of those documents.
no surprise here but your entire premise is a lie. Obama never took anything, Obama never stored anything, everything he has for his library has been under the control of NARA since day 1. all of it. they're the ones that moved the docs to Chicago, theyre the ones who stored them in Chicago. this little thing youre doing where you act like both sides are the same is complete fricking fantasy.

statement from the National Archives

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Three liberals, three responses that don't actually address the root question...

the frick do you want us to address, that dry heave of a hypothetical is complete gibberish. if you have a question, ask it.
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The point of the ruling is that the president has the authority to determine what is personal and what is official record.
dude.

what the frick.

no.

look up one post.

I literally just quoted the ruling making it perfectly clear that what is personal and what is Presidential is defined in the PRA, its spelled out, it is not whatever the President wants.

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The PRA distinguishes Presidential records from “personal records,” defining personal records as “all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.” Id. § 2201(3). The PRA provides that “diaries, journals or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Governmental business” should be treated as personal records. Id. § 2201(3)(A).

re: Clinton Sock Drawer Case

Posted by BlueHeeler on 9/23/22 at 3:41 am to
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Says the people that torture themselves by hoping they finally got him this time!
ok dude. but next time you get all pissed off because declassifying doesn't work the way you think it did, just remember that you chose to believe the wrong thing because its what you wanted to hear, not because it had any basis in reality.

re: Clinton Sock Drawer Case

Posted by BlueHeeler on 9/23/22 at 3:35 am to
what you probably mean to cite here is Judicial Watch v. National Archives and Records Administration, specifically this part

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"Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion..."


thats what people like Solomon and Posobeic keep tweeting. they want you to think the President can just declare things as personal and then go home with them. what they leave out is the rest of that sentence (while glossing over the first part)

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"...the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion, so the Deputy Archivist could not and did not make a classification decision that can be challenged here.


this is about separating personal items from Presidential records, not declaring them. thats all it is. its about filing. read the first part again, thats what they mean, how things would be filed at NARA.

the President does not get to decide which is which. the same decision makes it perfectly clear that what is personal and what is Presidential is defined in the PRA, its not just whatever the President wants

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The PRA distinguishes Presidential records from “personal records,” defining personal records as “all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.” Id. § 2201(3)

re: Clinton Sock Drawer Case

Posted by BlueHeeler on 9/23/22 at 3:30 am to
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They ruled that Clinton declassified the tapes by the action of taking them home.
thats not even close to right. read the decision for yourself.

1. at no point were the tapes ever classified. they were interviews with his biographer, not state secrets.

2. y'all have got to stop torturing yourself with this idea that things can be declassed with no formal act. they cannot.
let's say trump took home a top secret doc on our nuclear capability. if that were now declassified just by leaving the oval office, anyone could file a FOIA and then read that exact same top secret doc on our nuclear capability. the idea of that is insane beyond words.
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Judge Cannon, America needs you to appoint a SM capable and willing to do the fricking job.

DOJ had their chance to have a say, but just like everything else they touch it has become corrupted.
oh my dear god. trump asked for Dearie, and Cannon gave it to him. what more do you people want. take the L like men for once.
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Wait, they really did this? And the nut cases on the left still think this is on the up and up?

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Yes. Absolutely, see two posts up from yours for verification.
you cannot seriously think thats a real picture of an FBI agent sniffing her panties, can you? theres no possible way youre that guidable.

where do you think it came from, out of curiosity? FBI cleared everyone out. it was just them. You think they took that picture of themselves? and then leaked it? but only to @MiddleAgedBaby7, you think he got the scoop, is that it?

jesus fricking christ, there is no meme you people wont believe, Im not sure how you even manage to stay alive.
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and frick anyone lying to hide what he actually did.
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What he do, queer?
L O fricking L. so you skipped over the entire post explaining what he did and only read that last line, is that it, is that what happened you tooth brained fricking rock.
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because he said the "n word" online a few years ago they're justifying this process crime as falling under "white extremism"
oh is that how it went, is that all he did?



one of his emails was NaziAce1488. try and guess if thats some random number.



frick this piece of shite, and frick anyone lying to hide what he actually did.
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Thank you for joining yesterday. Go frick yourself.

1. you're welcome, it's nice to be here.

2. sorry I don't share in your geriatric lust.
ya'll seriously think this leathery 52 year old is some dime piece and you need to get it through your head that nothing could be further from the truth. no one is clamoring to be near her underwear.


the poli board is like, "this is a baby at 8 weeks, it can smile and almost say 'mom.'" thats what you people sound like.
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The party of science.

Ultrasound at 6wks
thats not a heartbeat genius. the entire lump in that ultrasound is pulsing. you think our entire body is a heart at 6 weeks?
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Gap-toothed bitch says "frick the science".


the confidence of morons is astounding. did you even read your own link.

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A fetal heartbeat may first be detected by a vaginal ultrasound as early as 5 1/2 to 6 weeks after gestation. That’s when a fetal pole, the first visible sign of a developing embryo, can sometimes be seen.


do you have any idea what a fetal pole is, genius? its an embryo, its not even a fetus for another month. thats what we are at 6 weeks.

actually lets backup; do you even know what a heartbeat is? its the heart valves opening and closing. thats what youre hearing. to think that an embryo the size of a grain of rice has working heart valves is laugh out loud stupid.

what the ultrasound is reading is electrical impulses roughly where a heart will be one day. and no, electrical impulses do not make sounds (thats why your link says "detected" and not "heard"). the sound youre hearing at 6 weeks is 100 percent the machine, shes right, its a manufactured sound, and thats true wether you like it or not.


ooff. he's just a little fella, isnt he. and this guy was a member of SWAT, huh? ok.
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excellent question.

Im sure the Ukraine devotees have an excus... I mean answer
they're the ones being invaded. kinda hard to stop a war the other side instigated.
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Louisiana has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
its THE highest, by a wide wide margin. we lock up a higher percentage of our people than anyone, 1,094 per 100,000.

El Salvador is 562 per 100,000.

we almost double El fricking Salvador.

US overall is 639 per 100,000.
Rwanda is 511.
Cuba is 510.
Thailand 443.
Panama 420.
Turkey 335.
Russia 330.
Iran 228.
Iraq 126.
China 121.

we are more savage than the most oppressive places on earth. and what do you idiots think, you think this approach has been working? you think doubling down is the key, you think thats the problem, our rate is too low?

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