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Grand Canyon in February? Is it worth it?

Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:46 pm
Planning my next trip, probably late February. Thinking either Grand Canyon or Death Valley and flying into Las Vegas. Death Valley NP's roads were heavily damaged by flooding so probably a no-go for the foreseeable future.

Anybody been to Grand Canyon in mid-winter? I know it'll be cold, but is it worth it for hiking? Buy some crampons?

Update: Got the permit for GC
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19222 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 1:40 pm to

North Rim is closed between November and May.
Death Valley will be in the low 70's.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

North Rim is closed between November and May.


I would hike rim-to-rim-to-rim
Posted by cassopher
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2010
798 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:21 pm to
We went about 5 years ago in mid February and we were fine in light jackets. I think most of the day I was in short sleeves.
We biked around the south rim and the bike trails were clear of snow, but not sure about the hiking trails. We were actually surprised at the snow on the ground but it is 7k feet.
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
717 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 5:25 pm to
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Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Buy micro spikes and you’ll be fine.


Will do.

If the backcountry permit comes through (should know in a month or so), I'm gonna do it. I've decided. Thinking 5 nights (Bright Angel, 2 nights at Cottonwood, Bright Angel again, and Indian Gardens)

quote:

Make sure and get an AWD or 4WD car as well.


Even if I'm just driving to the south rim and parking? Can the roads get pretty treacherous out there in winter?
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az
Member since Feb 2006
12869 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 8:38 am to
There are a few fb groups on hiking GC you can get valuable information such as gear, how much food needed, type of training. Deciding on SK to BA, SK to NK, NK to BA. Most people go down SK fwiw because of no water on trail.
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/16/22 at 11:35 am to
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Posted by LSU
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
9089 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 9:05 pm to
Think it's unusual, but my sister in-law was there the last week of March this year & it snowed.
Posted by Narbona
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

If the backcountry permit comes through (should know in a month or so), I'm gonna do it. I've decided. Thinking 5 nights (Bright Angel, 2 nights at Cottonwood, Bright Angel again, and Indian Gardens)


That sounds like a solid itinerary for a winter R2R2R since the rims may be icy and the days are shorter so 15-20 mile days are not as easy.

I'm sure you are probably doing your research but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

1. Day 1: take South Kaibab down

2. Day 2: take the side trip to Ribbon Falls, it is about 2.5 miles before you get to Cottonwood

3. Day 3: get an early start, it is the longest day by mileage and the North Rim may have ice and/or snow

4. Day 5, set up camp at Indian Gardens then hike out to Plateau Point for sunset/dinner, have a headlamp for the hike back. I believe it is around 5 miles round trip

5. Micro spikes for potential icy spots, most likely only necessary the first 3 miles below each rim

6. Trekking poles, they look goofy but your knees will thank you, especially on the descents

7. It isn't unusual for a late Feb snow storm, so have proper gear for the rims. If it does snow you are in for a visual treat that not many visitors get to experience. Your camp sites are at lower elevations so will be warmer, but be prepared for potential sub freezing temps at night. If it is at or below freezing keep your electronics, water bottle, and water filter in your sleeping bag. Hot hands packets in your socks are a good idea for safety and comfort.

8. Not a bad idea to bring a Garmin inReach or Zoleo if you have one. The iPhone 14 is supposed to include emergency satellite SOS as well if you happen to be picking one of those up between now and Feb. This isn't necessary as there should be Rangers at each camp site but if you slipped and fell on the North Rim you may be on your own unless a crazy ultrarunner happens by.

9. I believe they shut off some of the water sources for winter (1.5 and 3 mile stops on Bright Angel, the ranger house between Phantom Ranch and Cottonwood, and the fountain between Cottonwood and North Rim) so verify and plan accordingly

I have only hiked the canyon during the spring and summer but a winter hike is high on my list, better weather and the chance to see the canyon dusted in snow. If timing/permits works I may try to sneak a trip in between Thanksgiving and Feb, if so I'll update any pointers here.

Rumors are that they are going to be shutting down Phantom Ranch and the corridor trails to all backpacking for a year or two while they replace infrastructure so if you have the opportunity to go before then I would jump on it.
This post was edited on 9/17/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/17/22 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Rumors are that they are going to be shutting down Phantom Ranch and the corridor trails to all backpacking for a year or two while they replace infrastructure so if you have the opportunity to go before then I would jump on it.



Yeah, I read about the waterline being replaced for the entire canyon with an anticipated late 2022/early 2023 start date. I'm hoping with a Feb '23 hike that construction isn't too crazy yet so impacts would still be somewhat minimal. Idk, everything seems really vague on it which is frustrating when trying to plan.

Thanks for your insight and post.

ETA: Phantom Ranch has paused their cabin reservations starting 5/1/23 for now, so I suppose Bright Angel Trail will be fully operational until at least that date.
This post was edited on 9/17/22 at 10:05 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:45 pm to
Update: Got the permit for the rim-to-rim-to-rim in February. Should be fun.

But holy shite, Las Vegas is expensive, even for basic hotels just for a night before I come home.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 8:46 pm
Posted by JoeBobRuby
Member since Sep 2005
5943 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 6:58 am to
Congrats on the permit. Lots of good advice above and yes get AWD and microspikes. Train with stairs and a backpack, not just miles.

You will love it in winter. Typically much warmer down in the canyon than at the rim. But be prepared for anything.

Consider what you'll do if a bad storm or other incident forces you out early and you can't drive out of the park. Should be able to find a room if it isn't around a holiday.

We're doing Tanner-Beamer in November and Hermit-Boucher in December. May we all have good weather and safe trips!
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