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WiSA and other "sound bar killers"
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:15 am
Going to start over on the main entertainment system and I am focusing on the sound right now. So many options-so many differing reviews. I do not mind spending money on this because we are over 50 and have trouble with dialogue.
So, in searching, I came across the WiSA systems including the two from Enclave. These are attractive to me because they include multiple speaker without having to use an AV receiver. They are meant to be used with your TV remote.
Others I have looked at are the Polk and Klipsch Cinema bars that can use two surrounds. I have lots of outlets, so powering multiple speakers will not be a problem. I can even run the kind that connect to the sub without any trouble hiding the wires.
So, my priorities are:
1. Ease of use and control with our 1 remote(AT&T)
2. No wire runs other than power
3. Dialogue
4. Price...under $2K unless the Sennheiser is really the best way to go here.
Any experience here with these?
So, in searching, I came across the WiSA systems including the two from Enclave. These are attractive to me because they include multiple speaker without having to use an AV receiver. They are meant to be used with your TV remote.
Others I have looked at are the Polk and Klipsch Cinema bars that can use two surrounds. I have lots of outlets, so powering multiple speakers will not be a problem. I can even run the kind that connect to the sub without any trouble hiding the wires.
So, my priorities are:
1. Ease of use and control with our 1 remote(AT&T)
2. No wire runs other than power
3. Dialogue
4. Price...under $2K unless the Sennheiser is really the best way to go here.
Any experience here with these?
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Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:00 am to AlxTgr
i lump these in with the term 'soundbar' because anything that doesn't require a separate AVR purchase and configuration I consider under the soundbar label.
eventually these will all but replace AVRs much to tigerwise's chagrin.
eventually these will all but replace AVRs much to tigerwise's chagrin.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:11 am to CAD703X
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eventually these will all but replace AVRs much to tigerwise's chagrin.
As long as high-end speakers exist, that ain't happening
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:32 am to SG_Geaux
quote:It already has. I know zero people who use an AVR for TV.
As long as high-end speakers exist, that ain't happening
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:05 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
It already has. I know zero people who use an AVR for TV.
Just the crowd you run with.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:59 pm to VABuckeye
quote:crowd, family, SO family, co-workers...
Just the crowd you run with.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 2:19 pm to AlxTgr
There's a generation (or two) that hasn't heard really good music. They think that Bose and SONOS is great and most of them have listened to compressed music their entire lives.
Fortunately, LPs are making a comeback and with the LP comes the need for at least a little more serious sound system. The Hi-Res streaming services are also helping.
Fortunately, LPs are making a comeback and with the LP comes the need for at least a little more serious sound system. The Hi-Res streaming services are also helping.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 2:28 pm to AlxTgr
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I know zero people who use an AVR for TV.
AVR in my living room. Disney+, Netflix, Amazon all have things like Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos now.
I agree that the masses won't have an AVR, but I also don't think the masses have ever really had AVRs anyway.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:06 pm to VABuckeye
quote:Well, this isn't really about music. TV only. I have all my home speakers and patio speakers hooked up to a receiver.
There's a generation (or two) that hasn't heard really good music. They think that Bose and SONOS is great and most of them have listened to compressed music their entire lives.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:33 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Well, this isn't really about music. TV only.
TV has music in it.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 4:09 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Ease of use and control with our 1 remote(AT&T)
2. No wire runs other than power
Sonos Beam or Arc with some of their surround options with dialogue enhancer turned on.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 4:17 am to AlxTgr
Savant has some WiSA products. I actually call them SONOS killers because you get a lot more bang for your buck. Sound bar with intergraded automation host, plus you can add custom match grills.
I’m on team AVR. I have a 3 zone unit powering kitchen audio, master bedroom audio and video, living room surround sound and video.
They both have there places
I’m on team AVR. I have a 3 zone unit powering kitchen audio, master bedroom audio and video, living room surround sound and video.
They both have there places
Posted on 12/14/21 at 7:18 am to TigerWise
quote:I have something very similar(using a speaker selector) as well, and love it. I just do not want TV involved.
I’m on team AVR. I have a 3 zone unit powering kitchen audio, master bedroom audio
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:08 am to AlxTgr
quote:I figured out how to hook up my cable box to a receiver and speakers about 1983 or so, just to be able to hear MTV in stereo.
. I know zero people who use an AVR for TV.
Never had a TV without an AVR since. To each his/her own, I guess.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:26 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Just the crowd you run with.
crowd, family, SO family, co-workers...
rather than looking down your nose on the 'non audiophile unwashed masses' why not get on board where the industry is going and support better audio options without the headache of a dedicated AVR getup?
as much as y'all pretend an AVR setup is SO EASY FOR THE SPOUSES at the end of the day, we all know they require constant tinkering and there are very few 'regular' people capable of setting one up properly to get the most out of it even if they manage to purchase all the cables and wires they need and plug them in correctly.
Whose wife isn't delighted to pick up something like this to configure her TV to watch a hallmark christmas movie?
i'm sure in your perfect setup your wife and kids *NEVER* accidently hit one of the buttons on this that screws everything up.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 8:29 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:28 am to FearlessFreep
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I figured out how to hook up my cable box to a receiver and speakers about 1983 or so, just to be able to hear MTV in stereo.
there's a little bit more to it these days.... 
until AVRs stop looking like that, they'll never make any inroads into the mass market.
This post was edited on 12/14/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 12/14/21 at 8:42 am to CAD703X
quote:True enough.
until AVRs stop looking like that, they'll never make any inroads into the mass market.
When lightning killed my 10-year old Sony AVR this past spring, I opted for a much simpler system: all my sources (STB, Bluray, Roku) run directly into my TV, with a single optical output into a 5.1 AVR. Only thing anyone has to deal with is volume level.
Of course I don’t have any audio-only sources to deal with, so that really keeps it uncomplicated.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:03 am to FearlessFreep
quote:
When lightning killed my 10-year old Sony AVR this past spring, I opted for a much simpler system: all my sources (STB, Bluray, Roku) run directly into my TV, with a single optical output into a 5.1 AVR. Only thing anyone has to deal with is volume level.
once you've turned your surround system into a single volume up/down its impossible to go back down that road again.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 9:16 am to CAD703X
Every 5 hours I am going to buy a different system
That Sony HT-a9 seems cool. The Klipsch Cinemas seems like a best buy. The Samsung Q950A seems like the best bar option ever.
The spouse comment has me worried about anything not a soundbar, but those WiSA deals sure seems cool.
shite...it might boil down to which TV I end up with.
That Sony HT-a9 seems cool. The Klipsch Cinemas seems like a best buy. The Samsung Q950A seems like the best bar option ever.
The spouse comment has me worried about anything not a soundbar, but those WiSA deals sure seems cool.
shite...it might boil down to which TV I end up with.
Posted on 12/14/21 at 12:07 pm to CAD703X
quote:
once you've turned your surround system into a single volume up/down its impossible to go back down that road again.
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