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Which GPU to upgrade to??

Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted by mikie421
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:08 pm
My son want to upgrade his graphics card for Christmas. He currently has the MSI Radeon mech rx 6650 xt.

What would be the next logical step up from that? I have no idea about what differentiates one from another.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:17 pm to
Which games does he play, what monitor does he have (resolution and refresh rate), and what is his current CPU?
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:39 pm to
Also, what power supply does he have?
Posted by mikie421
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Member since Nov 2008
785 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:48 pm to
Power supply is a EVGA 750 w gold.
CPU is AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Monitor is a Dell s2721dgf

His favorite game is Elden Ring
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:07 pm to
Now is not the time, AMD is announcing new cards in five weeks.
Posted by G Vice
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 6:55 am to
Go to pcpartpicker.com to check compatibility of potential new components with what is in his current system.

I don't know much about GPUs, but the NVIDEA 4070 and the newer 4090 cards get very good reviews.
Posted by Codythetiger
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:15 am to
Thats way over the top for his build
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:39 am to
quote:

CPU is AMD Ryzen 5 3600

This is primarily going to be a balance question. That CPU is getting long in the tooth for modern games. I don’t know the real break point, but just throwing a dart, I would say anything above something like a 4070 is likely a waste of money, even at 1440p.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 7:44 am to
Is your son going to build a new PC in the near future where he could move the graphics card to the new build? If not, as others have said the CPU probably needs to be upgraded before he'd get the full benefits of a new graphics card. If he is going to incrementally upgrade this build, then go ahead and get the best graphics card you can now but also plan on a new CPU (probably the Ryzen 5800X3D). At that point, the system will be essentially maxed out and the next upgrades will require a new CPU, motherboard and RAM.
Posted by mikie421
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:06 pm to
So if I’m understanding correctly it would be best to upgrade the cpu now (Christmas)and the graphics card down the road a bit (his birthday).
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

So if I’m understanding correctly it would be best to upgrade the cpu now (Christmas)and the graphics card down the road a bit (his birthday).


You can upgrade the graphics card now but it might not be the upgrade they are hoping for. After that, the CPU needs to be upgraded and there are two paths for that:

1) The existing CPU is an AM4 socket type. This is a legacy platform. The fastest CPU (5700X3D or 5800X3D) you can get for this platform is not as fast as CPUs you can get on the newer platform (AM5). Just upgrading the CPU on the AM4 platform might be good enough and will allow you to get more performance from a new graphics card. This is the cheapest path but once the CPU is upgraded, that is the end of the road. There is no more upgrade options available.

2) Instead of upgrading the CPU to a new AM4 CPU, you can buy a new AM5 CPU, AM5 motherboard and new ram. This will be much more expensive of an upgrade but provide more long term upgrade options. A new AM5 CPU can make another graphics card upgrade in a few years feasible/useful.

If long term planning is not a priority and budget is a big factor, I'd recommend planning on a new graphics card and a new 5700X3D or 5800X3D CPU at some point. Doesn't matter which one gets upgraded first but the CPU upgrade would be cheaper and probably provide a more noticeable immediate improvement. If budget isn't much of a concern and you will be throwing new parts in it every couple of years, I'd go with option #2 above.

EDIT: make sure to research the existing motherboard before doing a CPU upgrade. You may need to do a bios update to get support for a new CPU or there is a small chance it will not support a faster CPU.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted by mikie421
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:26 pm to
Thanks for the guidance because I didn’t know any of that!
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:46 am to
It is quite annoying when you choose to upgrade your PC less often than a yearly basis, you have to upgrade multiple parts for them to be compatible.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:31 am to
quote:

It is quite annoying when you choose to upgrade your PC less often than a yearly basis, you have to upgrade multiple parts for them to be compatible.

Only really true with Intel. AMD is not only still supporting AM4, but it was “the” AMD platform for six years, from 2016 until 2022. And even now, upgrading from early AM4 processors to late AM4 processors is an extremely viable and worthwhile upgrade.
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