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User privacy concerns hampering Apple with AI Implementation...
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 6:27 pm
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With its uncompromising focus on user privacy, Apple has faced challenges collecting enough data to train the large language models that power Apple Intelligence features and that will ultimately improve Siri.
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:02 am to TigerGman
Protections working as intended; it's a feature not a bug.
Unfortunately, these same users are probably signed into IG, FB, Gmail, and a multitude of other things which are tracking them anyway.
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all signals that are relayed are anonymized and include random noise to hide user identity. Apple also doesn't link any data with an IP address or ID that could be associated with an Apple Account.
Unfortunately, these same users are probably signed into IG, FB, Gmail, and a multitude of other things which are tracking them anyway.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:04 am to LemmyLives
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Unfortunately, these same users are probably signed into IG, FB, Gmail, and a multitude of other things which are tracking them anyway.
No doubt. all the gullible "where's my free chit" Google / Android users aren;t helping
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:00 am to TigerGman
baloney. They dont give 2 shits about privacy. This is just them trying to make excuses and punt on AI saying it just isn't doable w/out sacrificing privacy.
In fairness, that is probably true.
In fairness, that is probably true.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:38 am to notsince98
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They dont give 2 shits about privacy.
They've put a good bit of planning and resources into privacy related infrastructure in this regard. They run a hybrid local/anonymized cloud/regular cloud AI setup while everyone else is sending everything to the regular cloud.
What Apple needs to do is use one of the open source models like Deep Seek until they can get their own solution up to speed.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:56 am to TigerinATL
The model is the easy part. It’s just a lame excuse. The little edge models and the attached tools will eventually make the LLM very useful but it’s a big challenge. They’ll get there.
I’m attempting a little 13b home LLM with just a document-only RAG via open-webui just updating the documents via a separate script and database and it’s a nightmare. It’s interesting to see how to turn a model into something useful in real time though.
I’m attempting a little 13b home LLM with just a document-only RAG via open-webui just updating the documents via a separate script and database and it’s a nightmare. It’s interesting to see how to turn a model into something useful in real time though.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:21 am to TigerGman
Anyway, has apple finished paying everyone out their $20 per siri enabled device for spying over the past 10 years?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:35 am to TigerinATL
all smoke and mirrors. Apple has complete access to anything and everything. They just do very good at not letting the public know who they give the information too.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:46 pm to notsince98
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baloney. They dont give 2 shits about privacy. This is just them trying to make excuses and punt on AI saying it just isn't doable w/out sacrificing privacy.
Well, not anymore I'm pretty sure. Cook has publicly said Apple isn;t doing it anymore, to whatever extent they did in the past.
It's all over Apple's website, too.
A public company and its CEO can't make statements like that without risking massive headaches from the SEC, etc. Most importantly, the class action customer and shareholder suits from the drop in stock would be enormous, even for Apple.
So I seriously doubt they are lying.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:03 pm to TigerGman
Sure they can. They have to have the tools in the OS in order to sell in China as they require full government access to all phones.
Apple doesn't make any special phones for USA or China. They all work in both countries.
Apple doesn't make any special phones for USA or China. They all work in both countries.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:22 pm to notsince98
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Sure they can. They have to have the tools in the OS in order to sell in China as they require full government access to all phones.
Apple doesn't make any special phones for USA or China. They all work in both countries.
? Did you read anything I just said? Too obvious to hide. They'd get sued into oblivion.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:24 pm to TigerGman
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? Did you read anything I just said? Too obvious to hide. They'd get sued into oblivion.
Yes, and I pointed you to irrefutable facts that present the possibility what Apple says is nothing more than marketing unicorns. If Apple had stopped selling in China, you'd have a point.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:35 pm to notsince98
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irrefutable facts that present the possibility
Possibility? That's all you got? In the face of the incontrovertible facts regarding iron-clad SEC regulations and Corporate shareholder obligations.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 5:15 pm to TigerGman
No the facts are Apple has access and gives it to the Chinese government. That can't be denied. Any other claims are pure marketing to the naive. Our government uses the same access so you won't get any prosecution from the USA government.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:42 pm to notsince98
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No the facts are Apple has access and gives it to the Chinese government. That can't be denied. Any other claims are pure marketing to the naive.
Well, you refuse to address the two massive class action lawsuits Apple would certainly get hammered on. The Government can't protect them from that. So, I'm done with this thread until you do.
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