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"Smart Home" advice: moving to a new house

Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 9:11 am
I already have Sonos everything, with Apple Music, so that will not change. Also, using Apple TV for streaming, Eero for routers (will hardwire as much as possible).

I will need:

Thermostats and cameras
I have been using Nest - love it, no problems but open to other suggestions

LED Lighting in certain areas
Need to convert interior floods to LED, preferably some would be controllable.

A system to tie all of this together
To make this a "Smart Home," it would be nice to find a way to tie all of this stuff together. I have heard good things about Savant. Is it even worth it to have something to control everything, or just work within each app? Does anyone have experience in using controllers like Savant/Control 4, etc.?

Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:50 am to
I have light switches, garage door opener, nest thermostat, and a few outlets all going through Google home minis. I have no issues with controlling everything through either voice commands, or the Google home app on my phone.

I just recently ordered a nest hub so we will see how we like the display.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 3:58 pm to
Honeywell thermostat has been good at my new house pro series with geofencing is pretty cool.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77990 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 6:15 pm to
I believe Savant and Control4 require you to have a dealer install and program them.

I am just using a combo of Alexa, Logitech Harmony Hub, and Samsung Smartthings.

But I like tinkering.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36186 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 11:39 pm to
We have Nest thermostats, Arlo cameras, Hue lights, Yale lock, smart plugs, Ring doorbell, and other smart bulbs and we use Alexa to control it all. A Show and some Dots.
Posted by MCrun2
Member since Mar 2004
473 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 6:47 am to
Samsung SmartThings WiFi is my mesh system and hub system all in one.

Controls a wide variety of all products in one system

Sonos, Hue, generic smart plugs, ADT home alarm system, and others
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Does anyone have experience in using controllers like Savant


I have a system sitting in a box that I haven't got around to installing yet. Might knock it out later today. I'm currently using URC. Savant is nice but I don't think it the best option for you if you plan on sticking with Nest. The lighting is badass but very expensive. Savant wants to be that expensive high end control system. The SONOS interface is top notch and their remotes are some of the nicest out there until SONOS breaks it.
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 9:42 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:42 am to
quote:

The lighting is badass but very expensive.


pray tell what makes their lighting more 'badass' than other lights? can you do more than have them turn on/off and dim based on other sensors, when you start a show on your tv or control with your voice?

just curious what i'm missing with my 'non badass' lighting.
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 7:51 pm to
Sorry buddy, wasn't trying to offend you. Of course your lighting is badass. I just think Savant's TrueImage control is the best interface out there today.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98190 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 10:56 pm to
Do you guys have any privacy or safety concerns with this stuff?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:08 am to
I don't, your phone is listening in on you all the time anyway...

But I don't really care if someone spies on me, I understand the logic of those people that are concerned though
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 4:48 pm to
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Sorry buddy, wasn't trying to offend you. Of course your lighting is badass. I just think Savant's TrueImage control is the best interface out there today.


so your idea of 'badass' is a better phone app?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:34 pm to
Where did I say that ?

But isn't that what you love so much about SONOS anyway ? The phone app ? We know it's not the sound quality or the way it seemlessly blends into a room. Not everyone wants to screw some surface mount wifi speakers into their window trim brah. People who have nice homes and spent $$ on premium finishes aren't going to do that and they don't want to pull out their phone to turn on a light. (Yes you can voice control)

I said Savant has the best user interface for lighting IMO. From phone/tablet app to wall controllers,remotes,Tstat, and keypads. It's a premium product that is very well designed and has the feel and user experience you would expect from such a product.

Kinda like the guy who commutes to work in the late model S600 has a better driving experience than the dude in the 2006 Corrolla.


Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:34 pm to
I read everything you wrote.

Still waiting on that bullet list of the badass features.

Isn't the idea of home automation that you set it up one time then forget about it?
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 7:35 pm
Posted by TigerWise
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35113 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Isn't the idea of home automation that you set it up one time then forget about it?


What does that have to do with what I posted ?

Nowhere did I say anything about the set up of the product.

If you weren't such a Trumpkin I'd swear you were a liberal. My buddy always says don't argue with a stupid person b/c they will bring you down to their level and beat you on experience.

Google it if you want more info.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:12 pm to
Maybe this YouTube link will help buddy.


LINK
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 6:51 am to

I saw a couple led lightstrips in there and a couple lamps turn on by using an app on on a tablet.

Revolutionary.

This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 9:45 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:28 am to
Funny you use the word "revolutionary". That's exactly how it was being describe when it was released at CEDIA 2017. It won Tech Home Mark of Excellence award last year for the human interface product of the year.


quote:

Savant TrueImage is such a revolutionary control concept, it will enable users of all ages and technical acuity levels to feel at ease with their smart home system immediately. TrueImage combines the magic of a smart, tactile interface with the simplicity of an old fashioned light switch, overcoming any intimidation factor that some first time home automation users might experience. TrueImage is an augmented reality user interface unlike anything else in the home automation marketplace, and thus has created a category unto itself. Homeowners will utilize TrueImage as part of an energy efficient lighting control system for every room and lifestyle application. And thanks to the simplicity of implementation, TrueImage can be updated quite easily if the lighting scheme or décor changes. Lighting control is one of the fundamentals of the smart home, and TrueImage is fun to use, easy to keep updated and part of an energy efficient lifestyle within a Savant smart home ecosystem.

       





Consumer Technology Association





Give it a rest buddy. There is no reason to derail these threads with your ignorance.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78101 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:11 pm to


and again, we're hailing an app when the whole point of home automation is to make the house smarter without intervention.

pretty sure i haven't opened the hue app to manually turn on/off a bulb in over a year. the only time i use the app is to add/edit/delete devices.

who cares if the app uses AR? file this under 'gee that's pretty cool' and then the tablet is put down and isn't picked up again for 6 months.

voice control >>>>> phone app
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:10 pm to
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voice control >>>>> phone app


Well that's your opinion. Plenty of people aren't fans of voice control. I'm one of those people. I want keypads,wall controllers, and remotes. But if voice control is your thing Savant does that too.


Sorry you don't understand the difference between having a bunch of smart doodads and a fully integrated control system.

quote:

that's pretty cool' and then the tablet is put down and isn't picked up again for 6 months. 




Not necessarily. I see automation system installed on a regular basis that use a dedicated iPad as a controller. Either table top, surface mount, or flush mount sometimes multiple iPads on one job. Sometimes an iPad is cheaper and is already familiar with the end user. Believe it or not there are entire companies that make mounts just for iPads in home automation applications.

quote:


pretty sure i haven't opened the hue app to manually turn on/off a bulb in over a year. the only time i use the app is to add/edit/delete devices.


If that one app controlled everything in your house you would use it everyday.



There is a big world outside that bubble you live in.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 3:12 pm
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