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Seasonal thread about laptops for new college student-hoping for real advice

Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:49 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:49 am
Daughter is starting college with plan to study economics. Needs a new laptop to take. Dell XPS-13 looks good to me but she likes MacBook Pro. Beyond cool factors, there are legit reasons to consider Mac, such as the Unix based OS and programming flexibility. University also seems to prefer Mac, although they say it is personal choice.

Is there a legitimate technical reason why a MacBook or PC is a better, or not better, choice for college this year?

Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:14 am to
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the Unix based OS and programming flexibility


Should not factor into

quote:

plan to study economics


She is obviously like mine and all her "cooler" friends have crapples just for the logo
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5473 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:27 am to
Objectively, Apples have the best trackpad - they are made of glass and the multitouch gestures are one of a kind. I am in the same boat and am getting a macbook.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26035 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:33 am to
I am hoping that some folks in college or grad school weigh in.

It would have been good if Apple had already shipped a 2018 updated line.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 8:35 am
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:37 am to
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Is there a legitimate technical reason why a MacBook or PC is a better, or not better, choice for college this year?


I'm not aware of one, especially for college students.

That said, if she likes the Mac she'll be more likely to use it. If she just doesn't want to use the Dell then the money "saved" was really just thrown away.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:45 am to
You usually pay more for what you get with apple, but they make quality products.

Do they have an 8th gen refresh yet?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26035 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:50 am to
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Do they have an 8th gen refresh yet?


Not yet. They also have a keyboard issue. They usually upgrade the line in June but no upgrade yet. Still selling last year’s system.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:50 am to
Macbooks have vastly inferior hardware compared to similarly priced PCs. The main reason to get a Mac is if you just prefer the OS, and are invested into the ecosystem.

Hardware specs will never lead you to buying a Mac.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 9:51 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:01 am to
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Macbooks have vastly inferior hardware compared to similarly priced PCs


Nowadays, this statement is false. Dell XPS and surface line run similarly priced to the MacBooks. They have 8th gen refreshes though, which is a pretty big step up from 7th gen

Sure, you can get gaming laptops for the same price, but people don't want to lug around 6lb systems with terrible battery life
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:02 am
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:38 am to
I haven't looked at the pricing on windows laptops recently. Wouldn't be surprised if they're raising their prices because they see Apple getting away with it.

In general if you know hardware, then look down the specs sheets for a macbook, they're a joke.

EDIT to add. Albeit the specs are extremely sufficient for college word docs and web browsing for sure. Just a bit overpriced for that use case.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:51 am to
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Wouldn't be surprised if they're raising their prices


try finding a $200 Mac with the OS installed
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:53 am to
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In general if you know hardware, then look down the specs sheets for a macbook, they're a joke.


They aren't a joke. They boast high resolution (and high quality) displays, build quality, battery life, Intel i5/i7 processors, 8-16gb of ram, nvme storage, and GOAT track pad.

Plus if you know anything about laptops, thin and light machines run you a premium over other laptops
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:59 am to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:20 am to
Okay, lets compare spec to spec



Edit: The XPS 13 with similar specs as above can be had for $1070 after $100 off promo code. It's CPU is much better, but you sacrifice screen quality and resolution
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 11:25 am
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:24 am to
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Okay, lets compare spec to spec



I just posted a shot from a non-biased website..My network won't allow me to access apples site as the engineers just jerk off over the machines they think they need all day..To be fair, most of them work off beast that are custom made and they do get to use Apple monitors
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83418 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:25 am to
FWIW, I use a regular 12 inch MacBook about 95% of the time professionally.

I think it would be a great college choice, especially as it's so easy to carry around.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 11:28 am to
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I just posted a shot from a non-biased website


Well no shite a cheaper, lower spec'd laptop would cost $800

quote:

My network won't allow me to access apples site as the engineers just jerk off over the machines they think they need all day..To be fair, most of them work off beast that are custom made and they do get to use Apple monitors


I haven't owned an Apple product in 8 years and hell, I'm sure my home PC is more powerful than most of those engineers PCs.

But thin and lights these days are run at a premium cost no matter which brand you're loyal to
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22041 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:41 pm to
Mac's are much more stylish among college kids.

Understand that and decide from there.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13141 posts
Posted on 7/2/18 at 8:51 pm to
If he/she wants a mac and they're used to it and it integrates with their iphone (if they have one), I'd go with that. They're going to be more likely to do work on it and get shite done and that alone might be worth the 200-300$ more you might spend.
Posted by lsu02150
BR
Member since May 2009
198 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 8:29 am to
There isn’t any real technical argument for either. I started at LSU with a PC, switched to a MacBook Pro 1/2 way through. Saw no real difference in school of business.

Really comes down to preference. One thing to consider about her preference is if the majority of her friends have Mac, she will have that many more people to help troubleshoot (I’m talking small but annoying things like printing in the libraries, etc.). Over 50% of LSU student laptops now are Mac.
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