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Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:20 am
I'm running out of space on my SSD drives. Games, crap, music, home videos, etc.. taking up lots of space.

I want to buy another SSD just for Steam games since they take up so much space. I've been having to uninstall old games to make room. I don't play much anymore, but I want to keep them accessible whenever I'm in the mood to play.

So can I just buy a new internal SSD and move all games to it pretty easily? Is that the normal solution? I can't imagine an easier way to address the issue..

Thank.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:31 pm to
If your computer has room for an additional drive, yes. You may move the games to the new one. It will gain a new letter (c is your main OS drive. It will be D, E, F, etc. heck. Go wild. Make it R). You will just need to update Steam with the new path to the old games, and you will need to tell it that you want the default place to put them and save them and launch them and all of that on the new path as well.
Basically, turn off the computer. Install new drive internally, turn it back on, open disk manager (assuming windows), and you’ll probably need to format the new drive and tell it how much of the space you want to use on it (all of it).



If you have no room for a second drive, you can use an external enclosure permanently or use it temporarily to transfer the current OS to the new drive, expand the space, and then you won’t have to change the drive letters.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:32 pm to
5TB Seagate USB backup drives are around $100. Move everything off your primary drive that you don't use regularly. 2 benefits in that they are PnP and portable.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28122 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:28 pm to
Thanks to both of you.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9948 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

5TB Seagate USB backup drives are around $100.


Warning! There are some games that will not install on a traditional drive, and have to be installed on an SSD. A non-SSD won't show up in the installable volumes selection.

Aside: I typed "traditional drive" and I immediately thought, I'm not talking about MFM or RLL drives! F I'm old. Yes, I am Dan, you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, nor should you.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:21 pm to
For clarification, I suggested a USB drive to move all the old files he mentioned for storage and make room on his current SSD drive for the game he wants to play.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9948 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

move all the old files he mentioned for storage and make room on his current SSD


Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze. Do you live in the sticks with limited bandwidth?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:17 am to
I’ve intentionally avoided this thread up to this point, as I’ve been torn between answering the question and trying to explain why I don’t know if this is the best idea. I just realized that more core issue is that I’m lacking data, so:

How much space do you currently have allocated to games, and how much space are you looking to expand to?

Bonus points if you can tell us your motherboard model.
Posted by ThatBaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
288 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 11:19 am to
I’ve always used an additional HDD to store games so I don’t have to change anything when I reinstall Windows. I’ve never ran into a game that couldn’t be installed on HDD but I am aware some are out there. You could even get both SSD and HDD, install the huge games or games that dont need fast loading on the HDD and install the most played on SSD. If you have the room, that is.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28122 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:27 am to
I'm not sure on how much space I have allocated to games. I have a ton of photos, music, and videos on the drive as well. It's gotten to the point that I have to uninstall Steam games to make room for a new game. I didn't play them really, so uninstalling was no big deal.

I'm not even sure how much space I would want for games. I only play three or four games really these days.. I would like the ability to have more space if I wanted to install Steam games I have uninstalled to have on the ready if I was in the mood to play..

I could put games like They are Billions back on my pc, and be able to play a quick game.

Figured a 1TB would be plenty, but I know games take up lots of space of course. Figured safe to go with a 2TB SSD. Prices are okay I guess on Newegg.

My mobo: (found my old Newegg order)

MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX

NEWEGG

Have a older mechanical drive with backup stuff on it.

Main drive is: (not sure if important to list current storage, but this drive has been good)

SanDisk Ultra 3D 2.5" 1TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SDSSDH3-1T00-G25


Also, doesn't the full storage slow down the pc? Mine feels slow. It's weird. Sometimes my comp will boot up in seconds, other times it takes longer. No idea what causes stuff like that...

I'm not very computer savvy on performance and software. I can put a computer together, but that's about it..
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 11:36 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:54 am to
How price sensitive are you? With that motherboard, I would like to incorporate an m.2 NVME drive if at all possible.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28122 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:26 pm to
Is that storage that looks like RAM sticks?

This?

Amazon link

Is this a new normal device type for internal SSD storage? I think I have a normal SSD drive inside my comp. Looks kinda like an external drive.. I don't think I've seen these internal drives that look like RAM...

1 stick of that is about $100. I don't follow tech very closely anymore. Figure 1TB would hold my games. Thought about trying to find a 2TB SSD for around $150. I guess that would be my comparison of products.


This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19991 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:35 pm to
the stick looking SSDs are called NVMe drives. You'd need to make sure your motherboard has a slot for one. I'm going to guess it does not.

SATA SSD drives (normal looking drives) will work great for video games. You should be able to get 1TB for under $50 or 2TB for like $70-80.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:48 pm to
Not only much, much faster but also doesn’t require any wires. The board you linked can take two:



One would go under that heat sink, labeled Lighting Gen 4 M.2 and the second (if you had two) would go where I put the second red oval, just slotted into that little side connection that I boxed in blue (it looks identical under the top heat sink).
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 1:53 pm to
With that said, if I wasn’t price sensitive, I would likely buy two m.2 NVME drives, one for games and one for your system in general. But if I were only buying one drive, I would buy a new drive to slot into that top m.2 slot, use that for your system storage, and continue using your current ssd as your gaming drive.

Moving your OS off of an older style ssd to a Gen 4 NVME would feel like night and day when it comes to the way your system “feels” while using it.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19991 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Moving your OS off of an older style ssd to a Gen 4 NVME would feel like night and day when it comes to the way your system “feels” while using it.


I have recently tested this out myself and I have to say that the general testing sites that have compared video game usage/loading between NVME and SATA SSDs were right. The difference is very small and not perceptible unless you are timing it.

In the end, it doesnt' really matter though because NVMe SSDs are not really any more expensive than SATA SSDs so there isn't much reason to buy SATA SSD unless you just need the SATA connection.

EDIT: Sorry, thought your posts said move "games" not "OS." You are very much right about putting the OS on NVMe. Sorry about that.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28122 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Not only much, much faster but also doesn’t require any wires. The board you linked can take two:


Yeah, that's my mobo.

So you don't have to install these as match sets or pairs like RAM? Can just buy one and plug and play yeah?
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28122 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Moving your OS off of an older style ssd to a Gen 4 NVME would feel like night and day when it comes to the way your system “feels” while using it.


I could just copy the OS drive over pretty easily right?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Yeah, that's my mobo. So you don't have to install these as match sets or pairs like RAM? Can just buy one and plug and play yeah?

It’s not fundamentally different than plugging in a thumb drive, except it’s your entire storage drive. M.2 NVME are the bee’s fricking knees at this point. No reason, other than cost, to use anything else.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29858 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I could just copy the OS drive over pretty easily right?

Yep, you just clone it. Just make sure you rename the drive (likely to C) if you don’t want paths to break. Just rename the gaming drive to something else.
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