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Question regarding WiFi 5 and 6
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:01 am
I'm looking at getting the Google Nest mesh WiFi system for the house. The modem and router (all in one) I was given by my ISP transmits WiFi 6. I know the Google Nest system doesn't support that. Seeing as my modem and router are the same thing and I'm going to need my modem with the mesh system, would I still be able to pull WiFi 6 speeds on my compatible devices?
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:34 am to TideSaint
Do you have any wifi6 compatible devices? If so, do you do anything that could use more than gigabit speeds? Does your ISP provide higher than gigabit speed? Do you think you would ever need to stream more than a couple dozen simultaneous 4K video streams?
What I'm getting at is wifi6 likely won't be all that relevant until you are ready to buy the next round of devices in 5-10 years.
So to answer your question, if you have any wifi6 devices and if you feel the need to connect at those speeds, you will have to leave the wifi active on your modem/router combo. Usually when you get something like the Nest mesh wifi, you would disable the wifi on your modem. But even if you leave it enabled, if your wifi6 devices go out of range or get too weak a signal from the modem, you should set them up to fall back and connect to the Nest wifi. But given that you're considering a mesh system, I'm guessing coverage isn't all that great currently.
What I'm getting at is wifi6 likely won't be all that relevant until you are ready to buy the next round of devices in 5-10 years.
So to answer your question, if you have any wifi6 devices and if you feel the need to connect at those speeds, you will have to leave the wifi active on your modem/router combo. Usually when you get something like the Nest mesh wifi, you would disable the wifi on your modem. But even if you leave it enabled, if your wifi6 devices go out of range or get too weak a signal from the modem, you should set them up to fall back and connect to the Nest wifi. But given that you're considering a mesh system, I'm guessing coverage isn't all that great currently.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 10:39 am to Korkstand
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Do you have any wifi6 compatible devices?
I have one. My new phone.
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Does your ISP provide higher than gigabit speed?
They do, but I didn't sign up for that plan.
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But given that you're considering a mesh system, I'm guessing coverage isn't all that great currently.
It's fine. My teenage boys just want faster Wi-Fi upstairs when they are playing online. I planned on setting them up with an access point upstairs and plugging in the other one downstairs. The main issue I'm going to run into is the builder only put in one wall jack for the fiber into the house and it's in the freaking kitchen. So I have to plug the Nest router into the modem in the kitchen.
My house is a little over 3,000 sq ft so the Nest should offer ample coverage.
Thanks for the advice.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:04 pm to TideSaint
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The main issue I'm going to run into is the builder only put in one wall jack for the fiber into the house and it's in the freaking kitchen.
You can have the fiber provider move the ONT to somewhere else for a fee. If your house is relatively new and has phone jacks they were probably wired with CAT5E which you can convert into gigabit ethernet jacks.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 1:31 pm to gpburdell
So I got an update. The WiFi upstairs is now slower than it was when I was just using my ISP provider router.
Download speed was 15 MBps slower and upload was 20 MBps slower.
Download speed was 15 MBps slower and upload was 20 MBps slower.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:49 pm to TideSaint
I wouldn't worry about wifi 6, hell wifi 6E comes out this fall and isn't backwards compatible.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:24 pm to TideSaint
quote:You got the mesh wifi already?
So I got an update. The WiFi upstairs is now slower than it was when I was just using my ISP provider router.
Download speed was 15 MBps slower and upload was 20 MBps slower.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:51 pm to Korkstand
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You got the mesh wifi already?
Yeah. My local Home Depot had it on sale for $70 off. I hooked everything up, ran some speed tests and they all clocked slower than what I was running originally.
My cellphone was getting 300+ MBps in the back bedroom upstairs with my ISP router. I ran a speed test from the exact location after I set up the mesh system at only pulled down 90 MBps.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 2:37 pm to TideSaint
How is the signal strength with the mesh in those far away spots? I'm looking at mesh also, but my internet is capped at 50MBps (which is fine for us), so I'm not concerned about bandwith.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 4:34 pm to DrewTheEngineer
I took that shite back.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 6:22 pm to TideSaint
Did you have a second node or just the main unit? If you had more than one, then I think something wasn't set up right.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 7:01 pm to Korkstand
It came with the router and one access point. The router has to plug into your modem so it was downstairs and I put the access point in the guest bedroom which is in the middle of the hallway upstairs.
It said the connection was great in the Google Home app, but when I speed tested it that wasn't the case. It was much slower than what I was already getting upstairs.
It said the connection was great in the Google Home app, but when I speed tested it that wasn't the case. It was much slower than what I was already getting upstairs.
Posted on 9/4/20 at 8:38 pm to TideSaint
Yeah something wasn't right. Not saying it was your fault, because if the app said it was "great" then it should have been great. Obviously that wasn't the case.
I've never tried Nest wifi (nor any other mesh system), but a ton of people here have it and love it, so I didn't try to steer you away.
Personally, I had some coverage issues in my house with my decent quality ASUS router, and instead of getting mesh wifi I picked up a couple of Ubiquiti AP's. It's not for everybody or every situation because you do have to run some cat6, but the coverage is excellent and the speeds are great.
Ubiquiti also has a line of mesh wifi products called Amplifi (one of which has wifi6), in case you look into it again in the future and are put off by Google's stuff.
I've never tried Nest wifi (nor any other mesh system), but a ton of people here have it and love it, so I didn't try to steer you away.
Personally, I had some coverage issues in my house with my decent quality ASUS router, and instead of getting mesh wifi I picked up a couple of Ubiquiti AP's. It's not for everybody or every situation because you do have to run some cat6, but the coverage is excellent and the speeds are great.
Ubiquiti also has a line of mesh wifi products called Amplifi (one of which has wifi6), in case you look into it again in the future and are put off by Google's stuff.
Posted on 9/5/20 at 7:30 pm to Korkstand
Sounds to me that the device you were using for the speed test wasn’t swapping or roaming to the access point and remained connected to the main nest router. That’s an issue of the device, not the mesh Wi-Fi. I use the older google Wi-Fi and love it.
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:29 am to Broken Coyote
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Sounds to me that the device you were using for the speed test wasn’t swapping or roaming to the access point and remained connected to the main nest router. That’s an issue of the device, not the mesh Wi-Fi
I tested the speed with multiple devices.
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