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re: Migrating Win 10 on laptop from standard HD to NVMe M.2
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:47 pm to Grillades
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:47 pm to Grillades
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You can always perform a clean install on the NVMe drive at a later time.
I'm not even going to uninstall it. I'm just going to "disable" it in the Bios.
and PS. Thanks for the advice, I certainly appreciate and value it.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 7:05 pm to Lonnie Utah
Download Hiren’s PE. Use Rufus to put it on a thumb drive. Install M.2. Boot computer with thumb drive. Use one of the disk tools to clone the drive. Remove thumb drive and old Hard drive. Boot to make sure it copied everything correctly and M.2 boots correctly. Reinstall old hard drive, boot with thumb drive again. Format old hard drive. Remove thumb drive, reboot, enjoy.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 12:43 am to Lonnie Utah
Only clone if you have applications that you can't reinstall(lost licenses) or if you are imaging PC's in bulk.
Else do a fresh clean install and migrate files.
Else do a fresh clean install and migrate files.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:01 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:How did you perform that transfer? That's kind of abysmally slow, in the neighborhood of 15MB/s.
I have about 300-400GB of music files on the machine, not to mention all of the programs and applications. While cleaner, the "reinstall windows route" would take forever. The last time I transferred my music files to a new HDD, it took about 8-10 hours....
Also are you creating/editing this music, or just playing it? In either case, you have backups of all of it, correct?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:37 am to td1
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Download Hiren’s PE. Use Rufus to put it on a thumb drive. Install M.2. Boot computer with thumb drive. Use one of the disk tools to clone the drive. Remove thumb drive and old Hard drive. Boot to make sure it copied everything correctly and M.2 boots correctly. Reinstall old hard drive, boot with thumb drive again. Format old hard drive. Remove thumb drive, reboot, enjoy.
I don't know what Hiren's PE or Rufus are but this is written like a guy who's done this more than a few times already.
My first go involved migrating an OS to save a licensed 2000s app that would otherwise require a ~$500+ annual subscription. Think medical billing software but different.
I was able to migrate the OS using Windows restore and a backup ISO. And it worked.
Learned more and the second two SSD upgrades were much easier/simpler using cloning software.
Seems like an issue the software community could normalize to make it more accessible for 'pooter noobs to do themselves.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 5:31 am to Korkstand
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How did you perform that transfer? That's kind of abysmally slow, in the neighborhood of 15MB/s.
Also are you creating/editing this music, or just playing it? In either case, you have backups of all of it, correct?
The old hard drive in a case to USB. The real issue there was the new computer kept sleeping on me. Maybe it was because I tried to do it over night....
Mostly just playing it, but some I have created. And yes, I do have backups of most of it...
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:27 am to Lonnie Utah
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I have about 300-400GB of music files on the machine, not to mention all of the programs and applications. While cleaner, the "reinstall windows route" would take forever. The last time I transferred my music files to a new HDD, it took about 8-10 hours....
Maybe I missed something here but if you clone the drive you are copying all the data from one drive to another, and if you reinstall Windows on the new drive and copy the files over you are copying all the data from one drive to another. Besides a little bit of variance for doing a block-level vs. file-level transfer, what difference does it make?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:51 am to efrad
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Maybe I missed something here but if you clone the drive you are copying all the data from one drive to another, and if you reinstall Windows on the new drive and copy the files over you are copying all the data from one drive to another. Besides a little bit of variance for doing a block-level vs. file-level transfer, what difference does it make?
I'm guessing the previous transfer method was just via a really slow bus...that and the computer kept sleeping from what OP said
300GB via USB:
Result for USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/s):
01h:25m:20s:000ms
Result for USB 3.0 (3.2 Gbit/s):
00h:12m:30s:000ms
So even with much less than theoretical, you're looking at an hour or less via USB 3.0.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:53 am
Posted on 6/23/21 at 1:18 pm to shspanthers
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I'm guessing the previous transfer method was just via a really slow bus...that and the computer kept sleeping from what OP said
My best bet/guess is that the USB HD enclosure bought for cheap off Amazon was the bottleneck.
Truth be told, after a 2 or 3 hours I quit watching and went to bed. It was finished the next morning when I got up, so I really don't know how long it actually took. I remember the projections in windows were in the range previously given.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 2:01 pm to Lonnie Utah
About to start this project if I can ever get windows to finish making the recovery drive...
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:32 pm to Lonnie Utah
I’ve done it more times than I can count. If you google Hiren’s PE and Rufus you will find all the info.
There is no reason to do a fresh install unless you want to start over for some other reason. You’ll waste a lot of time installing the bajillion windows updates, all your software, redoing your settings, and copying all you files over.
There is no reason to do a fresh install unless you want to start over for some other reason. You’ll waste a lot of time installing the bajillion windows updates, all your software, redoing your settings, and copying all you files over.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 7:49 am to Lonnie Utah
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About to start this project if I can ever get windows to finish making the recovery drive...
Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:32 am to shspanthers
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Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
Here we go. Just hit "clone drive" button. Nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs right now...
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:49 am to Lonnie Utah
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Here we go. Just hit "clone drive" button. Nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs right now...
Why nervous? It's not going to remove anything from the old drive, just duplicate to the new drive. If anything goes wrong, it's not like you'll lose any data.
Posted on 6/24/21 at 11:58 am to efrad
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Why nervous? It's not going to remove anything from the old drive, just duplicate to the new drive. If anything goes wrong, it's not like you'll lose any data.
I was nervous, because I have a high propensity of screwing things like this up...
That being said, looks like it's finished, and seems to be working so far.
And rather than wiping the old one, I think I'm just going to pull it out and set it on the shelf and get another HDD to put back in it's place. That way, I can always step back in time to this point and I know I have a working copy of everything...
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 12:01 pm
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