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re: Is Sonos surround sound worth $5700?

Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:13 pm to
Re:Sonos

There is very little margin on Sonos. Paying msrp is pretty much the standard.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:16 pm to
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you are paying $700 just for the remote control and programming. I just bought a ligitech harmony 700 for $40 that could control all those things and programmed it myself in 5 minutes.


Looks like he quote a URC remote which has a full feature two way driver for Sonos. That's different than an $40 remote.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:25 pm to
Yes it is. URC do a lot more than a basic Harmony remote but as you know the programmer has to know what they're doing.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Everything there is about a full days work. If I can't get $1400 profit at least for a day I don't consider the job. It takes money to run a legitimate company.

I get that, but I wouldn't pay someone $200 to program the remote, I would do it myself so I also understood how to operate it.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:32 pm to
If it's a Harmony. No offense but your chances of programming a URC remote without knowing what you're doing is slim to none. As a consumer you also don't have access to the programming software. Dealers only.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:35 pm to
My first time programming a URC remote was a horrible experience and I thought I knew what I was doing. It isn't easy.....At all!
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:36 pm to
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If it's a Harmony. No offense but your chances of programming a URC remote without knowing what you're doing is slim to none. As a consumer you also don't have access to the programming software. Dealers only.

Didn't read the UFC part. I would just get a Harmony and not overspend on remotes and programming. Maybe that's not the best way, but I think the average person will get everything they need.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:53 pm to
A Honda Civic can get you from point A to B but the people who do it in a Benz have a much better driving experience.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 4:43 pm to
I drive a C350. Somehow I don't think a Harmony remote is akin to diving a Honda vs a Benz. Unless you really enjoy pushing buttons on 1 remote vs the other.

ETA: I get for the true audiophile these things matter, as I mentioned earlier the average person who wants a nice sound system doesn't need a remote that requires only certain people to program.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:31 pm to
If that is turnkey 100% ready to go when done, that is not a bad price.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 7:21 pm to
It has nothing to do with being an audiophile. It's about pressing one button on a remote and it executes the exact same procedure every time. Without fail.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:28 pm to
I got the Sonos Playbar and Sub about 2 months ago. 100% worth the $1400 price tag.

You, however, are getting screwed at that price.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 6:54 am to
He is getting the playbar and sub for $1400. How is that getting screwed ?
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:10 am to
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I have no idea. I'm gonna go over everything with them tomorrow and see what they're thinking.


Do you have existing audio equipment? Receiver and speakers or just some speakers?
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 10:06 am to
I'll install your tv on stone for 300
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/22/17 at 10:37 am to
As a comparison, I got a 60" tv, two amps, sonos cube, a sub, harmony remote programming and installation for about $4700. I called one of the advertising guys and they quoted me twice that.

My guy doesn't drive a wrapped van or maintain a brick and mortar. Less overhead.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5201 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Have you ever mounted a tv on stone? It's a complete pain in the arse to do it correctly. We also don't know if he needs power or cables installed behind the tv. $600 is not outrageous at all for installing a tv on stone.


Yeah, my dad and I did it a few years ago for their TV at their house. We even ran wires for a new outlet to put behind the TV mount.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57947 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Installation of TV on stone - 600
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Universal LCD color screven IR remote - 250
Universal remote RF base with RFX-250 RF sensor - 260

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Remote programming - 190

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Installation of wifi - 120


BTW you can pay me $1400 to come hang your tv, bring you a new harmony elite and program it for you, and hook your shite up to your wifi.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:11 pm to
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As a consumer you also don't have access to the programming software. Dealers only.

which just mandates you get your dealer out to fix shite that doesnt work. That is done on purpose, to keep a need for you to keep coming back out.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
37495 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 2:19 pm to
It's also a whole lot more complex and powerful than programming a Harmony.

I'm not saying a URC is needed for this application but they are a different level of control.
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