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Home network cable routing
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:38 am
I’m just starting to look at adding access points in some spots. Coming from my switch, I’ll have a handful of Ethernet cables that will need to penetrate the framing top plate to get into the attic. What’s the best way to get 6-8 cables through the top plate, running between the switch and the attic, in existing construction? Multiple holes adjacent to one another?
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 9:39 am
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:48 am to turkish
Get and Eero Plus and be done with all that shite
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:04 am to turkish
I believe you can put up to a 2" hole in a top plate, but I normally put a 1" or 1-1/8" with a diablo spade bit. That's usually big enough for 8 or so cables, then if I need more I'll put a second hole.
If it's an exterior wall you'll have to deal with insulation which is a pain in the arse.
If it's an exterior wall you'll have to deal with insulation which is a pain in the arse.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:11 am to yankeeundercover
Still a consideration. Problem is that I have a detached garage with Ethernet run to it that may be too far for a mesh system to connect. I’m also really liking the look of wall or ceiling mounted APs.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:12 am to yankeeundercover
quote:That's fine if you don't care about features or configuration, and if you don't mind multiple devices around the house taking up shelf space and power outlets, and if you don't mind replacing all of it every 5 years or so.
Get and Eero Plus and be done with all that shite
I don't mean that as harshly as it might come across, I mean seriously it's fine if you don't mind all that.
Personally though I have ceiling-mounted access points and I wouldn't have it any other way. They are out of the way and out of sight, don't take up power outlets, don't need to be dusted and cleaned around, they are placed exactly where they provide the best coverage (you can't put a mesh unit in the middle of a big room), and I can replace any of them with a different model from any manufacturer if I want or need to. But of course you have to be ok with putting in the work or initial cost to have it done.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:17 am to turkish
quote:Several of the mesh systems have ports for wired backhaul, but I'm not aware of any PoE ones and they will still need to be plugged into the wall at the far end.
Problem is that I have a detached garage with Ethernet run to it that may be too far for a mesh system to connect.
My motto is wired when possible, wireless when necessary, but I understand that not everyone will feel the same.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:17 am to yankeeundercover
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Get and Eero Plus and be done with all that shite
Buying another wireless product and putting off running good cabling is literally the opposite of being done with all that shite.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:09 pm to turkish
Drill 2 1-1/2" holes. You can pull all eight wires unterminated through the 2 holes. I'd space the holes about an inch apart.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 6:20 pm to Korkstand
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I believe you can put up to a 2" hole in a top plate, but I normally put a 1" or 1-1/8" with a diablo spade bit. That's usually big enough for 8 or so cables, then if I need more I'll put a second hole.
If it's an exterior wall you'll have to deal with insulation which is a pain in the arse.
I’ve always liked this guide. This is for plenum, which doesn’t necessarily imply thicker jackets, but you can see the widths of the cables they used and compare. Great rule of thumb.
ETA- I’ve seen a few schools of thought, but in many instances, I’ve seen the suggestion that top plates are not necessary for structural integrity, and it’s possible to remove entire sections of it (or drill bigger holes. I have a 2.5” hole in my main drop).
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:34 pm to turkish
Don't forget that there is fire blocking about halfway down the wall. You can buy a drill bit extension to get through it but only on an interior wall where there's attic height.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:39 pm to Korkstand
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Personally though I have ceiling-mounted access points and I wouldn't have it any other way.
quote:how are your ceiling access points immune from the 5-year tech evolution that seemingly anyone else’s, including my eero, undoubtedly suffers.
if you don't mind replacing all of it every 5 years or so.
Do you have *special* access points?
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:44 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:Exactly the opposite, there is nothing special about them. They are just access points, interchangeable with any other access point. If one of them breaks, I can replace that one and keep the rest.
how are your ceiling access points immune from the 5-year tech evolution that seemingly anyone else’s, including my eero, undoubtedly suffers.
Do you have *special* access points?
Mesh systems are "special", they have compatibility issues. If a particular mesh system is no longer available in 5 years and one goes out, you're replacing the whole setup. Some of them are even incompatible within the same product line (Orbi, for example).
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:47 am to Korkstand
I have finally gotten in a better spot with home internet, after fighting poor availability in my area. I have ATTs new 5G home internet gateway/router. I’ll go from a switch to APs. How do I understand if it would be better for me to 1) have my own router between the gateway and switch or 2) go straight from gateway to switch?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 6:56 pm to turkish
Add your own router. You will have more control of your home network than the supplied junk. Set ATT router to pass through mode.
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