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Hikvision Cameras
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:06 pm
Does anyone have Hikvision cameras installed or have prior experience?
My security company is offering an upgrade to this camera system (for residential use) for ~$2,400. This price includes all installation, a 4 channel DVR, and either 4, 5 MP TVI turret cameras or 3, 5 MP night vision with color turret cameras. As long as I maintain my security monitoring ($29.95/month), the cameras remain under a no fee warranty/service.
Is this bad deal/good deal?
My security company is offering an upgrade to this camera system (for residential use) for ~$2,400. This price includes all installation, a 4 channel DVR, and either 4, 5 MP TVI turret cameras or 3, 5 MP night vision with color turret cameras. As long as I maintain my security monitoring ($29.95/month), the cameras remain under a no fee warranty/service.
Is this bad deal/good deal?
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 pm to TygerB8
This board will think the price is ridiculous and recommend some BS instead. Hik makes good product and those ColorVu cameras are legit.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:18 pm to TygerB8
The government implemented Section 889 of the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act back in August and banned Hikvision along with a handful of other Chinese manufacturers(Huawei, ZTE, Dahua, etc).
I work for a federal contractor and had to rip out Hikvision and Dahua camera systems at 3 different office locations and replace with new cameras.
Get Hikvision if you don't mind being spied on by the Chinese Communist Party
LINK
I work for a federal contractor and had to rip out Hikvision and Dahua camera systems at 3 different office locations and replace with new cameras.
Get Hikvision if you don't mind being spied on by the Chinese Communist Party
LINK
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:05 pm to lockthevaught
I had hikvision prior to going all out with Ring and Wyze cameras. Good camera, but very suspect as far as security, had a bad problem with people hacking them and yelling at people they saw in the camera.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:06 am to TygerB8
Hikvision sounds like something you would find at Tractor Supply Store.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 12:34 am to Brisketeer
Before the ban Hikvision was the largest camera brand in the world.
They'll be tanking along with Huawei because all of the public universities in America were also forced to remove their cameras.
They'll be tanking along with Huawei because all of the public universities in America were also forced to remove their cameras.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 6:51 am to lockthevaught
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had hikvision prior to going all out with Ring and Wyze cameras.
Two different animals
quote:
Hikvision sounds like something you would find at Tractor Supply Store.
Literally the largest camera manufacturer, they OEM tons of other manufacturers.
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They'll be tanking along with Huawei because all of the public universities in America were also forced to remove their cameras.
I doubt it. The camera business has changed tremendously the last 15 years. Before a dealer would pay $250-$299 for fixed lens, 480 TVL, IR IP68 camera. Now you can get a 2MP camera with ultra array IR for under $50. Everything is made in China, by one of 3 manufacturers, where back in the day everyone bought Korean made equipment. Difference is back then you mostly saw cameras in commercial applications, if someone had cameras on their home they were likely a drug dealer. Now with cheap Chinese’s crap that as flooded the market everyone has cameras not just big businesses and Hik has a yuge product line that fits into every category, even the new Covid category. They ain’t tanking.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:20 am to TigerWise
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Now you can get a 5MP camera with ultra array IR for under $50.
FIFY.
If you have access to your attic and there is any head room up there, this is an easy job. I got a Reolink 8 channel NVR and six 4/5 MP cams this summer for $500. Installed them myself. Other than only having 1 ladder that I had to move from inside to outside and from cam to cam, it wasn't a hard job at all. But I have a pretty open attic space and good access to where I wanted the NVR. The hardest part was configuring a 2nd wireless router to the NVR so I could watch the cams remotely. I enjoy doing these types of projects so your mileage may vary. I'd like to add a few IR illuminators around the house and 2 more cameras, but I'll wait until the spring time to finish that part of the project.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:03 am to TygerB8
are you paying $2400 + the monthly fee? or is the $2400 no charge to you as long as you maintain the monthly monitoring?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:08 am to TigerWise
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I doubt it.
I just assumed that if the federal government is scared of using their products... consumers wouldn't trust them either.
Also its not comforting to know that the Chinese government has been caught hacking into Hikvision DVRs and using them as bitcoin miners.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:15 am to lockthevaught
Consumers for the most part don't know, or if they know they don't care. Price has too much influence on decision making.
At some point we all need to wise up and pay attention to what our devices are doing. I don't know what sort of marketing and/or policy push would be required, but it will likely take a massive amount of resources to get people to buy devices that cost twice as much as the chinese equivalent.
quote:Yeah, same thing has been done on websites and other devices. Wasting our energy to generate free money for themselves.
Also it not comforting to know that the Chinese government has been caught hacking into Hikvision DVRs and using them as bitcoin miners.
At some point we all need to wise up and pay attention to what our devices are doing. I don't know what sort of marketing and/or policy push would be required, but it will likely take a massive amount of resources to get people to buy devices that cost twice as much as the chinese equivalent.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:56 am to TygerB8
Hikvision and Dahua put a big dent in the surveillance industry a few years ago. There are other options that are more affordable. I’m surprised alarm companies are still trying to push these with residential installs.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:10 am to safemode
Section 889 also forced me to rip out some "Lorex" cameras. They are a subsidiary of Dahua.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:11 am to mchias1
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are you paying $2400 + the monthly fee? or is the $2400 no charge to you as long as you maintain the monthly monitoring?
I would have to pay $2,400 + monthly fee. The $2,400 covers the camera system and the $30/month fee covers my security system monitoring. As long as I maintain the monthly fee, the company will also include a no-fee service for anything that may happen to the camera system. After 5 yrs, I can cancel the monthly monitoring fee.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:19 am to TygerB8
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I would have to pay $2,400 + monthly fee
I wouldn't pay that. That system MAY cost $1000 and that's being super high on the price. The system is probably closer to $500.
Learn how to terminate cat cable, FYI it's really easy. And do it yourself. Save yourself $1500-2000.
side note: if any cameras are connected to a switch on your network that has access to the internet. Go into your router and disable internet access for the cameras.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 11:45 am to lockthevaught
quote:What brand(s) are they going back with?
Section 889 also forced me to rip out some "Lorex" cameras. They are a subsidiary of Dahua.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 1:56 pm to safemode
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I’m surprised alarm companies are still trying to push these with residential installs.
What should they be pushing ?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:02 pm to TygerB8
I wouldn't use most of the cameras recommended on this board, hikvision included. Most of the cheap cameras have hikvision or dahua chips in them which potentially have backdoors to China in them.
You can put them on a separate VLAN and isolate them with a firewall but that's not as good as simply avoiding the stuff.
I recommend Axis cameras or any of the big companies that have enough leverage to completely control their manufacturing even if it is in China (Apple, Google).
You can put them on a separate VLAN and isolate them with a firewall but that's not as good as simply avoiding the stuff.
I recommend Axis cameras or any of the big companies that have enough leverage to completely control their manufacturing even if it is in China (Apple, Google).
Posted on 12/18/20 at 8:39 pm to BeepNode
Thanks everyone! I appreciate all the information.
I am interested in a camera system. Any recs in Lafayette area for installers of reputable systems w/o these potential China issues?
I am interested in a camera system. Any recs in Lafayette area for installers of reputable systems w/o these potential China issues?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:13 pm to TygerB8
U.S. Government banned per Section 889 of U.S. code: Hikvision IS the CCP, in case you didn't know.
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