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Getting internet to detached shop

Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:51 am
I'm currently building a detached shop and would like to get internet to it from the house. I will already be digging a trench for the other utilities (terminating in basement) so I wanted to bury fiber in conduit. Could someone direct me to exactly what I'll need? I've read not to do cat5/6 because of lightning but there are so many types of fiber it kind of makes my head spin. The run will only be abut 150 ft. I think what I need is obviously the fiber as well as 2 media converters to connect both ends to switches. Links would be helpful.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:30 pm to
You don't have to have fiber for only 150ft. You could run a Cat6 cable and should be fine.


The lightning statement is valid but there are tons of places that use direct burial copper.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:26 pm to
I bought 250' foot of direct burial Cat5, trenched from my house to the shop, threw the cable in, and buried it.
Been that way for 5 or so years, no issues.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:27 pm to
Cat6 is fine, get OSP rated as normal indoor cable won't last long even in a conduit.
Get a couple surge protectors and make sure to ground them well. It won't stop everything but it beats keeping up with fiber in a residential environment.
amazon

The other option is a wireless bridge
ubiquiti

IF you are in South La, we install all of this.
www.belle-tech.com
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

The other option is a wireless bridge
ubiquiti
Man I think I would go with a pair of nanostations at 1/5th the price over the BtB bridge
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:36 pm to
I'd think a
quote:

The other option is a wireless bridge
ubiquiti
Man I think I would go with a pair of nanostations at 1/5th the price over the BtB bridge

Sure, just showing there are more options and I would lean away from fiber in a typical residential environment.
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1941 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:37 pm to
I've looked at point to point but I'll already have a trench open so it will be easy to drop in a line. Is fiber that difficult? It seems like plug and play if you get everything pre-terminated, plus it would be future proof.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:54 pm to
Rodents love the kevlar that surrounds fiber.
Rodents WILL find it, that includes squirrels.
Copper cable isn't going anywhere.
If it were me, I'd drop a 1 1/2" PVC in that trench and you can swap your cable out at will!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 6:44 pm to
I ran 2 lines of cat 6 to my detached garage in waterproof conduit leaving the house to the garage.

I wanted 2 for an extra. I use one to power cameras and the other for a WAP.
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
2877 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Man I think I would go with a pair of nanostations at 1/5th the price over the BtB bridge


Yup. This.

LINK
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:43 pm to
Not even the regular nanostation, I'd get 2 of the loco's.
Posted by dlmast87
Amish Country
Member since Dec 2007
1941 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:11 pm to
With my current set up, a wireless bridge would be less desirable. I'd prefer the cleaner look of keeping everything underground since everything will be terminating into the basement.

Maybe I'm too worried about the lightning issue with copper? I'm not really sure how to properly ground those ethernet surge protectors.
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
2877 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:27 pm to
Do the locos come with a poe injector?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Do the locos come with a poe injector?
Ah right, they do not. Would also need a couple of the $9 injectors I believe. Looks like OP is pretty set on cable though.
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 1:25 am to
quote:

Not even the regular nanostation, I'd get 2 of the loco's.


How far do the loco's reach? my shop is 400 feet from the house.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/30/21 at 8:32 am to
Miles.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/2/21 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

s fiber that difficult? It seems like plug and play if you get everything pre-terminated, plus it would be future proof.


You would need either 2 fiber strands one for Tx and one for Rx, or a single single mode fiber with bi-directional SFP transmitters in the media converters. Pay attention to the connector for both the fiber and SFPs. The BiDi SFPs will be different for each end. One transmits on one frequency and receives on the other frequency. The second SFP is the opposite.
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