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Gaming Desktop vs Work Desktop -- Computer

Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2903 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:50 am
I am in the market for a home desktop for mainly work purposes. I use a graphic program, Corel Draw, sometimes for work and that would be the only heavy program that the computer would be running. When I do use it, i want it to run smoothly though so spending a little more money is not a problem for this. Recently I have seen what appears to be good computers at Costco but they are "gaming" computers.

Is there a big difference in what is labeled a "gaming" computer versus just a standard computer?

Also, if I had $1,300 to spend, would you recommend building my own machine (very little experience, but good at figuring stuff out) or just going to Costco (or other retail) and buying off the shelf?
Posted by Chinese Bandit
Edmond, Ok
Member since Jan 2004
1543 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 7:36 am to
Based on pc requirements for corel draw you need a video card. Not a powerful one but it has to have 3 gb of vram. Work desktop not likely to have a video card at all and just use integrated graphics. Gaming desktop with 1000 series nvidia should be fine as long as it has the vram. Building is fun but you won’t have warranty or help if something goes wrong.


quote:

CorelDRAW Graphics Suite 2022 -

System requirements Intel Core i3/5/7/9 or AMD Ryzen 3/5/7/9/Threadripper, EPYC.

OpenCL 1.2-enabled video card with 3+ GB VRAM.

8 GB RAM.

5.5 GB hard disk space for application and installation files.

Mouse, tablet or multi-touch screen.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Is there a big difference in what is labeled a "gaming" computer versus just a standard computer?



“Gaming” more or less necessitates that it will have a graphics card installed. This often means a bit beefier power supply than the same “non gaming” version from the same company with the same other internals, but not necessarily (and there aren’t a lot or “gaming/nongaming” models out there, but you’ll still generally find a higher -powered power supply in the gaming models).

For the last 2ish years, if you’re buying new parts, you’re not a ton better off than buying an off the shelf computer in terms of price/horsepower


A “gaming” computer from Costco and other big retailers will usually have LED lights that you can turn on/off or change the color of to look “cool”

Building yourself will allow you some more options when it comes to what the case will look like and how expandable you want the internals of it (extra connectors on the power supply- whether they are modular, semi-modular, or non modular- whether you have bays for extra internal storage, presence/absence of cd/dvd/bd drives, and the specific port configuration on the front and back sides). A lot of the same things can be later customized on a “bought” system as well, but you’ll have to dig a bit to find the case specs, motherboard headers, and what’s hanging off the power unit.


So, in short:
Go to a big box store. If there’s something that’s adequate in terms of power and doesn’t frustrate you to look at, you’re probably just as well off picking it up as customizing your own.


Signed,
Guy who still doesn’t have any RGB or water cooling systems and has rebuilt in a 2005 Sony case 3 or 4 times now
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27076 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Is there a big difference in what is labeled a "gaming" computer versus just a standard computer?


"Gaming computer" is mostly marketing. With that said, with your budget and needs, I would suggest building it yourself. Way too many corners are going to get cut at that price point, especially when your needs are going to be a little more boutique.

When it comes to GPU, honestly, I doubt CD would even push the integrated GPU on a modern CPU, but it would potentially limit your resolution options. So with that said, how many monitors are you planning to push, and at what resolution?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27076 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:11 am to
Alright, so this was different than most build requests I see on here, so I couldn't help myself:

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PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($186.25 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($43.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($77.04 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS XS OC GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750x (2021) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($108.45 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F12 PST 53 CFM 120 mm Fans 4-Pack ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $970.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-05 10:06 EDT-0400
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Important note: I would not buy the GPU on the front end. I would save the $200, do the build, and see if the programs I use really need more than what the 5700G can provide. If so, you slot that time-honored 1660 Super in and you're done. If not, you're good to go with a system that cost you less than $800 and has some pretty significant upgrade paths going forward, to the point that I think you could easily get a decade out of the majority of your components.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11509 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 1:10 pm to
I run CorelDraw and Adobe graphics sweets on a laptop with "Intel Iris Plus graphics" and a i7-1065G7 processer. It runs fine, even when I get a warning saying that processing such a large image my slow down my computer it takes 1-2 seconds to make a change. It might happen instantly on a proper graphics oriented computer but it happens fast enough that it isn't a hinderance. I don't use these programs in any type of job capacity.
Posted by Intelligent
Member since Jun 2017
672 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 4:54 pm to
Build it yourself, it's more fun. If you plan on having a serious graphics card, make sure the card will fit in the case.

I also prefer workstations to gaming rigs. One of the big differences in these machines is the video card. There are lots of websites for benchmarking and comparing video cards.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4890 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Build it yourself, it's more fun.


I've been building my own PCs for over 20 years and every time it's a new experience.

The quality of components has gotten really good.

Caveat: As easy as it has gotten, it's still relatively a pain. It's easy to make a mistake if you're in a hurry or don't know better. If you aren't confident in your ability to figure things out, then just get a pre-built.

What's your budget?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

It's easy to make a mistake if you're in a hurry or don't know better.



I seated the RAM starting In Slot 4 instead of 1 (or 3/0. I don’t know). It took me way longer than I’d like to admit to get that machine up and running. Wouldn’t even load the BIOS. I think I bought a new PSU (this is like an off the shelf Acer case from 2008ish at my parents’ house) before I realized I was a dumbass.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27076 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

I seated the RAM starting In Slot 4 instead of 1 (or 3/0. I don’t know). It took me way longer than I’d like to admit to get that machine up and running. Wouldn’t even load the BIOS. I think I bought a new PSU (this is like an off the shelf Acer case from 2008ish at my parents’ house) before I realized I was a dumbass.


One of the reasons that, no matter how low someone's budget, I never suggest a motherboard that doesn't, at minimum, have debug lights. Troubleshooting a no-post in the blind is hell for a first time builder
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6445 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 8:18 pm to
Gaming laptops have garish graphics, LEDS, and fans that run at high speed. That is kinda the definition. They're bigger to deal with heat.


quote:

I use a graphic program



If you're not doing time dependent rendering, it doesn't matter. Does it take 11 minutes to finish what I'm doing or 14 minutes? Who cares?

You most likely don't work for NASA, where people are gonna die if you're 30 seconds late. There are reports that Corel Draw doesn't recognize GPU offloading anyway, soooo. Start with integrated graphics first, if it doesn't meet your needs, add nearly any card later. But not until you know you need it. Since you're not gaming, you will have to be extremely specific about what you're doing for anyone to help you. (Rasterization, etc.) What is the use case??

Make sure you have a big SSD (512MB+), make sure you have 16GB+ of RAM, and get a mid premium CPU. I have bought $900 laptops with discrete graphics which meet the spec. There can be a severe amount of difference between the same HP/Lenovo/Dell Laptop on the $50 upgrade button on a processor

SSD (NEVER buy a computer that has a hard drive or HDD as a primary drive.)
RAM (8GB is probably actually enough, but 16GB is safe.)
AMD Graphics (if possible; there are multiple generations, just like Intel).
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