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re: Flume water meter monitor

Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:54 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 11:54 am to
Pipe diameter is a constant.

I don't know much about engineering but is max flow rate a constant even under different pressure?

Calculating the movement of water under the sensor is the tricky thing to me.

If a smart faucet can reliably deliver precisely 1 cup of water every time there must be a simple sensor somewhere.

I'm overthinking this for sure but the movement of water through the pipe is what I don't get. How can an external sensor get that data unless it's "stealing" it from the existing meter somehow.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:04 pm to
Pretty sure it picks up signals from the meter, it's not measuring the water flow itself.

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When water flows through a household water meter, a magnetic disc spins inside of the meter, which correlates directly to a water flow rate. The Flume sensor measures the magnetic field from the meter and sends the information to an app via a Flume bridge
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
804 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:20 pm to
What kork said. You strap it around the meter not the water flow. It's probably measuring a pulse signal or spinning wheel inside the meter using magnetics.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:13 pm to
Wow that makes total sense.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14646 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:19 am to
GREAT time to have one of these
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6833 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:27 am to
Anyone know if Jefferson Parish has a rebate or something available for installing one of these? If so, google is not being very forthcoming.

Either way, looks like something I need to add to Home Assistant system.

This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:28 am to
i just ordered one


ETA: i probably should have gone to look at my meter first but off well.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 10:37 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

GREAT time to have one of these
Absolutely! Really easy to justify the cost after all this.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Anyone know if Jefferson Parish has a rebate or something available for installing one of these? If so, google is not being very forthcoming.
I doubt it, but you'll have to call to see. And you'll probably have to speak with several different people. And if the answer is 'no' every time, I would ask to be put on a list for potential rebates in the future.

These things could save so much trouble, money, and heartache.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2127 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:50 pm to
Another interesting data point....my flume stopped working the other day. I went outside and looked and it had obviously been moved. My assumption is that the meter reader didn't know what it was and removed it to look and then did a half arse job of putting it back.

I had to re-calibrate it to get it working again.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 4:37 pm to
Did the app notify you that something might be wrong, or did you just happen to notice?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:08 pm to
Does BR water have a rebate for this?
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2127 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:39 pm to
No notification. It was still reporting usage at a rate of like 3 gallons per hour.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:07 pm to
That sucks. Maybe they will add a tamper alarm to version 3.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38680 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:15 pm to
The city has remote reading electronics on the new meters they are installing in Dallas, mainly so they can lay off meter readers. I hope they eventually allow us lowly citizens to have access to the real time data they are producing.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 10:49 am to
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I don't think I can live without this for another day.
So I did live without it for another day, many days in fact. I did get one last year though and thought I'd bump to report my first notification and to check on everyone else.

I got an alert about a potential leak the other day, so I hurried home to check on it. Turns out my wife left the tub faucet trickling because we have a cat that likes to sit in there and play with it and drink from it. She normally just lets it run while she's getting ready in the morning, but she forgot to turn it off.

Anyway, false alarm but at least I know it works pretty well. If it were an actual leak that could cause damage, it would have been the difference between a 10 gallon mess and a 100 gallon mess. For $200 I don't think you can beat that peace of mind.
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