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FInally got Ubuntu installed and running on that Lenovo...

Posted on 9/7/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 7:35 pm
Was a real pain. Simply would not boot from or install CD. I'd do things like change the BIOS boot order to no avail.

Finally stumbled across this:
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All Windows 8 machines come with UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), a new industry-standard replacement for BIOS. UEFI will handle larger partitions than BIOS could, but it also has a feature called Secure Boot to prevent you from "accidentally" installing some other operating system, such as Ubuntu Linux. At present (January 2014), you must disable Secure Boot and enable Legacy Support and CD ROM boot as well as changing the boot order. Just how you do this may vary from one manufacturer to another.
You should set:


Under “Legacy Boot Order”, put “Internal CD/DVD ROM Drive” on top and “Notebook Hard Drive” in second position.

Press F10 to Save and Exit. The computer will boot -- you guessed it -- Windows 8! Turn it off, wait 15 seconds, turn it on, and again press Esc twice a second. You will at some point get a screen that tells you that someone has modified the UEFI options. If you really want them modified, then you must copy a number shown on the screen into a box, also shown on the screen. Do so, and follow any other instructions on the screen. You now have a good chance of booting Ubuntu.

It is a good idea to keep some notes on what you are doing. It is hard to avoid the impression that some influential company wants to make it complicated for you to start enjoying Linux.
LINK

Even that didn't do it as every manufacturer has a different UEFI setup configuration. So it was a lot of trial and error. Even after I finally got it to actually install it still refused to boot. So I had to install a 3rd party Boot loader-- took bout an hour to get that going right. At least the boot loader itself was free.

Humming along pretty smoothly now.
This post was edited on 9/7/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 8:33 pm to
I have Ubuntu running on a Dell server and have had a few problems with it, as in, it rebooted itself. I have some frame grabbers running in the background feeding several other clients, so will be examining my installation later this week when I have time to try and figure out what is wrong. Otherwise, seems to be solid.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:05 am to
Do you complain as much in real life as you do on the Tech Board? You sound fun.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:34 am to
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Do you complain as much in real life as you do on the Tech Board? You sound fun.



About Microsoft making a simple 15 minute job a several hour nightmare? Damn right I do.

Those are direct quotes from the Ubuntu help site. So it's not just me.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:54 am to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 9:58 am to
Posted by rn4j0r
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:33 am to
Congrats on getting Ubuntu installed.

I just setup Kali Linux (LINK on my Win laptop.

Its great distro if you are into pentesting // curious about the network you are on.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 10:35 am
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:05 pm to
I'll give you that one. UEFI and the guid partition table have made dual booting a more complicated process. Not several-hours complicated, but less straightforward.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Not several-hours complicated, but less straightforward.


If you knew step by step what you were doing it wouldn't take that long. The hard part was figuring it all out. They have a tutorial saying this is how we did it on an HP, but you are probably going to experience different results. Boy did I. Anyway it's done. So far so good. Firefox seems slow loading initial pages the first time you go to a new website but once you've done that running pretty well. Got a work out an issue with Flash plug in.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:19 pm to
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About Microsoft making a simple 15 minute job a several hour nightmare?


Right...Should be so much easier to remove their OS and replace it with another...What were they thinking..
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:48 pm to
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remove their OS and replace it with another...What were they thinking..


Is asking for a Dual Boot so much? Besides it's Lenovo's computer, not Microsoft's.

Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Besides it's Lenovo's computer, not Microsoft's.



You blamed Microsoft for making it take so long...
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:53 pm to
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You blamed Microsoft for making it take so long...



As does Ubuntu. Cause it appears to be Microsoft's doing.

Anyway, it's done. And I can say Asta La Vista to Windows 8 ( err 8.1).


ETA: BTW, I finally got the clock working on Win 8.1. It wasn;t syncing to the default server, so I switched it to a Nasa server and it worked right away. What was the default server? Microsoft of course...
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:45 pm to
Your clock problems are not typical.

You talk about Microsoft like they are so incompetent, but their software makes most of the goddamned world go 'round.
Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:55 pm to
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BTW, I finally got the clock working on Win 8.1.


This is actually dumber than anything my techno-tarded parents have ever had problems. I feel sorry for your family.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:03 pm to
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You talk about Microsoft like they are so incompetent, but their software makes most of the goddamned world go 'round.



So? Doesn't mean it does it well. McDonald's sell more hamburgers than anyone else. And their products suck. So what's your point?
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:10 pm to
McDonald's hamburgers don't make business happen. Microsoft's software does.

That's my point.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:13 pm to
Congrats man

I'm loving XUbuntu 12.04 on my little ASUS chromebox.

ETA: Although I did get a little frustrated trying to install Dropbox...still have no idea what I was screwing up but it works like a champ now
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 2:16 pm to
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McDonald's hamburgers don't make business happen. Microsoft's software does.


Imagine McDonald's being the complete nutritional solution for a company with employees in the tens or hundreds of thousands.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 6:49 pm to
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McDonald's hamburgers don't make business happen. Microsoft's software does.


That excuses products like VIsta and Windows 8 being foisted on the masses?
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