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re: Drones
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:39 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:39 pm to Dam Guide
quote:According to the UAS Help Line (844-359-6982; a warm-bodied human), Section 336 is still in effect since the new law has not yet been implemented. The website is current - per the FAA as of today. It will be supplanted by Section 349 when the new law is implemented. That's straight from the horse's mouth.
Section 336 was tossed by the court.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:42 pm to tigerpawl
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According to the NPPA in my phone call to them today (844-359-6982), Section 336 is still in effect since the new law has not yet been implemented. The website is current - per the FAA as of today. It will be supplanted by Section 349 when the new law is implemented. That's straight from the horse's mouth.
Did you read the NDAA? It clearly states the court ruling nulled it and says this law gives them the power back. This law was signed because it was for 2018 budget. The new law that is currently being implemented will add more regulation to drones.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:44 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:44 pm to Dam Guide
quote:According to the individual I spoke to, it will give them the power when the law is implemented. That date is yet to be determined.
It clearly states the court ruling nulled it and says this law gives them the power back.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:46 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
According to the individual I spoke to, it will give them the power when the law is implemented. That date is yet to be determined.
Read the law blog, 1092 is already law, it was signed in December LAST YEAR by Trump and is what gave them the power back. Without 1092, FAA has no power to require it, as the old law was tossed.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:51 pm to Dam Guide
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In May, a ruling by the DC Court of Appeals struck down the FAA's previous attempt to require owners of model aircraft operated for recreational purposes to register with the agency. The court found that the "Registration Rule" directly violated section 336(a) of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act, which prohibits the FAA from "promulgat[ing] any rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft."
Section 1092(d) of the NDAA authorizes the FAA to require such registration. The Conference Report accompanying the NDAA notes that "the conferees believe that registration of unmanned aircraft is consistent with the long-standing requirement for registration of aircraft . . . and is necessary to promote safety and security among all current and future users of the NAS." The Registration Rule is restored effective immediately.
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This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:52 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
tigerpawl
That's a different bill than the NDAA....
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:53 pm to Dam Guide
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:03 pm to Dam Guide
quote:Understood. However, H.R. 302, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 affects drone (UAS) registration and licensing which is the underlying topic of this thread - is it not?? And speaks directly to FAA mandates regarding drones. See: LINK
That's a different bill than the NDAA....
Are you saying H.R. 302, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 (signed last month) has no relevance? Has it not been reinstated??
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:11 pm to tigerpawl
All I am saying is 336 was tossed, that's how I registered my drone before the court case that tossed it. I did not know registration was reinstated, that was done with NDAA section 1092. I saw they are gonna do some more stuff with this new law that you posted, but I have not read a lot about it yet.
Timeline:
I registered my drone in late 2016
May 2017 336 and registration is canned by the court case
December 2017 Trump signs NDAA bringing back registration
July 2018 apparently same guy loses court case to kill NDAA requirement.
October 2018 the bill you posted is signed but not yet implemented, saw an article talking about beacons and other regulation that they might put in there
Timeline:
I registered my drone in late 2016
May 2017 336 and registration is canned by the court case
December 2017 Trump signs NDAA bringing back registration
July 2018 apparently same guy loses court case to kill NDAA requirement.
October 2018 the bill you posted is signed but not yet implemented, saw an article talking about beacons and other regulation that they might put in there
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:32 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
It’s more like where flight is prohibited like national parks that are restricted by software.
So I couldnt take a basic photography drone on a camping/photography trip to Yosimite, and use it to try to take some cool aerial shots??
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:39 pm to TOSOV
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So I couldnt take a basic photography drone on a camping/photography trip to Yosimite, and use it to try to take some cool aerial shots??
Yosemite has them banned, you have to get permission to fly them there legally. I've never gone through that process. I am sure they have let commercial people film there and the park uses them as well. I think DJI has hardcoded all national park land as restricted zones where they won't fly into them or take off in them.
You can fly outside the park looking into it.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:12 pm to Dam Guide
Thanks for the info. I'm sure many messed it up for us regular folks that just want a different simple angle, and nothing to crazy. I was kind of hoping to find something to get an aerial shot around where I camped at to see where I may want to go the next day.
I'll have to look into the "permissions" before I decide to invest more time, and money into something.
I'm assuming there will be differences between the rules in Federal vs State Parks too.
Thanks again.
I'll have to look into the "permissions" before I decide to invest more time, and money into something.
I'm assuming there will be differences between the rules in Federal vs State Parks too.
Thanks again.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:45 pm to TOSOV
quote:
I'm assuming there will be differences between the rules in Federal vs State Parks too.
Yes, I am not sure if state parks are hardcoded into them now though. I am 99% sure they are not but it's been awhile since I flew near one, because I have flown into some in Tennessee. National Forest isn't, I fly in national forest all the time. Some states have made it illegal to use them for scouting a hunt too.
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