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re: DJI Mavic Pro Thread cause flyAU gets the sads...
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:00 pm to flyAU
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:00 pm to flyAU
quote:That is correct. It's amazing how many people think they're licensed for commercial work just because they registered their drone. You need a Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificate - looks like a green drivers license - and must be on your person when operating your drone. General Knowledge test required - unless you already have a [current] traditional Part 61 pilots license.
Google FAA Part 107 Test, that's what you need to take to be commercial.
quote:If you accept compensation in any form - either cash or in-kind - you need a Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificate. Some unlicensed videographers have been known to give away the video portion of the job and charge for the editing. That is also in violation of Part 107. Flying for in-kind payment (like LSU football tickets) requires a Remote Pilot Certificate. If you fly a drone for the benefit of your business or profession (construction company; real estate agent, etc), you need a Remote Pilot Certificate. As part of the aviation General Knowledge Testing process, you will also be automatically screened by the TSA.
Ok well is there a difference if you are flying as a hobbies vs flying on the job? Or is it when you are licences, even when you are flying recreation ally you have to follow the commercial rules?
quote:Neither can enter controlled airspace (with an active control tower) without obtaining a waiver.
You just have to alert the airport of your flights as a hobbyist, as commercial pilot you must have approval.
FYI, you can arrange for a Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificate holder to be the PIC (Pilot In Command) and stand nearby and you can actually fly your own drone, but the PIC has to be the one to charge the client.
Fundamental differences between hobbyists and commercial: LINK
List of Remote Pilot Certificate holders (by state & parish; Southwest FAA Region) as of JAN01, 2017 (third column from the right; "REMOTE
PILOT"): LINK
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 7:23 pm
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:39 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
Neither can enter controlled airspace (with an active control tower) without obtaining a waiver.
Commercial has to stay in Class G without waiver/approval. Hobbyists can go into much more without waiver, just notification. Since I am in a 5 mile non towered airport radius (but I have a permanent agreement already with them), I just have to provide notification to fly, commercial has to be approved to fly.
Hell it even says it clearly in the link you posted for differences....
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 7:55 pm to Dam Guide
quote:I'll say it again (read it slowly). You cannot go into a controlled space with an active control tower without first obtaining a waiver, either as a hobbyist or commercial operator. Example: Class D, Hammond.
Commercial has to stay in Class G without waiver/approval. Hobbyists can go into much more without waiver, just notification. Since I am in a 5 mile non towered airport radius (but I have a permanent agreement already with them), I just have to provide notification to fly, commercial has to be approved to fly.
Hell it even says it clearly in the link you posted for differences....
quote:No. But you should be aware of the operating rules that other pilots adhere to when operating in a non-towered environment, such as traffic patterns. No prior approval necessary for non-towered airports.
commercial has to be approved to fly.
quote:You're still in Class G. If you're not in A, B, C, D, or E, then you're in G.
Commercial has to stay in Class G without waiver/approval. Hobbyists can go into much more without waiver, just notification.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:48 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
I'll say it again (read it slowly). You cannot go into a controlled space with an active control tower without first obtaining a waiver, either as a hobbyist or commercial operator. Example: Class D, Hammond.
And I will say it again, that's not how the rules work for hobbyists. I do not have to fill out the waiver for Hammond inside their 5 mile zone. I have to notify them. Read your own link.
Do I need permission from the FAA to fly a UAS for recreation or as a hobby?
There are two ways for recreational or hobby UAS fliers to operate in the National Airspace System in accordance with the law and/or FAA regulations. Each of the two options has specific requirements that the UAS operator must follow. The decision as to which option to follow is up to the individual operator.
Option #1. Fly in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Public Law 112-95 Section 336). Under this rule, operators must:
Fly for hobby or recreational purposes only
Follow a community-based set of safety guidelines
Fly the UAS within visual line-of-sight
Give way to manned aircraft
Provide prior notification to the airport and air traffic control tower, if one is present, when flying within 5 miles of an airport
Fly UAS that weigh no more than 55 lbs. unless certified by a community-based organization
Register the aircraft (UAS over 0.55 lbs. and less than 55 lbs. can be registered online at registermyuas.faa.gov; UAS 55 lbs. or greater must be registered through the FAA's paper-based process)
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:49 pm to Dam Guide
Does the new Small UAS Rule (part 107) apply to recreational UAS operations?
Part 107 does not apply to UAS flown strictly for fun (hobby or recreational purposes) as long as these unmanned aircraft are flown in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Section 336 of P.L. 112-95). Visit our "Fly for Fun" webpage for safety rules and guidelines that apply to recreational UAS operations. The small UAS rule codifies the provisions of section 336 in part 101 of the FAA's regulations, which will prohibit operating a UAS in manner that endangers the safety of the National Airspace System.
Part 107 does not apply to UAS flown strictly for fun (hobby or recreational purposes) as long as these unmanned aircraft are flown in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Section 336 of P.L. 112-95). Visit our "Fly for Fun" webpage for safety rules and guidelines that apply to recreational UAS operations. The small UAS rule codifies the provisions of section 336 in part 101 of the FAA's regulations, which will prohibit operating a UAS in manner that endangers the safety of the National Airspace System.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:54 pm to Dam Guide
What you are saying is correct if I fly according to Part 107, but Hobbyists don't have to follow part 107.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:02 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
I do not have to fill out the waiver for Hammond inside their 5 mile zone. I have to notify them.
Commercial operators may do likewise. It's when you breach the controlled towered airspace that you need a waiver before hand.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:06 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
Commercial operators may do likewise. It's when you breach the controlled towered airspace that you need a waiver before hand.
Hobbyists still do not need a waiver, that is Part 107.... We notify, and if our notification gets denied, then it's best not to fly.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:10 pm to Dam Guide
quote:Notification/Waiver. Tomaytoe/Tomahtoe. Long story short - you can't just mosey into that class of airspace without them knowing beforehand.
Hobbyists still do not need a waiver, that is Part 107.... We notify, and if our notification gets denied, then it's best not to fly.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:12 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
Notification/Waiver. Tomaytoe/Tomahtoe
bullshite and you know it Calling the airport before a flight is completely different than filling out this:
LINK /
Guess you just don't want to admit you may have needed to read a bit more on it when you were fine with calling me out on something you thought was right.
Just noticed what the waiver page says too...
quote:
This form should only be used to request waivers or airspace authorizations under Title 14 CFR Part 107; it is not for modelers or hobbyists flying in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (P.L. 112-95, Section 336).
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:51 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
Guess you just don't want to admit you may have needed to read a bit more on it when you were fine with calling me out on something you thought was right.
quote:I called your attention to this. You specifically mentioned "non towered". Commercial operators do not need approval for non towered airports. You said they did. You stated:"...commercial has to be approved to fly."
Since I am in a 5 mile non towered airport radius (but I have a permanent agreement already with them), I just have to provide notification to fly, commercial has to be approved to fly.
So are you talking about a towered or non-towered airport? And you can quibble and parse words to your heart's content about the convenience or lack thereof to get approval vs. waiver. That was never in question.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:35 pm to tigerpawl
quote:
So are you talking about a towered or non-towered airport? And you can quibble and parse words to your heart's content about the convenience or lack thereof to get approval vs. waiver. That was never in question.
And you were talking about towered and were proved wrong there. You are correct, I said not towered, mine is a class D during the day towered, at night (when you are not allowed to fly anyway) it is not towered. Meant to say not continuously towered, I was wrong on the non towered part of my airport and will admit that.
The waiver vs notification is still very different. I had no issue getting easy notification in my class D and even made friends enough to get a permanent allowance. I did not have to go through the trouble of a waiver.
You clearly thought a waiver was necessary and were proven wrong.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 3:58 pm to Dam Guide
Can we change the thread title? Every time I see it it gives me the sads.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 5:51 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
Dam Guide
Posted on 1/8/17 at 6:10 pm to flyAU
Thought you would like it ha ha
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:23 pm to Dam Guide
STILL WAITING...
Have had that B & H order since December 6th. Newegg order is chilling out at "Order Processing". I am getting restless.
Have had that B & H order since December 6th. Newegg order is chilling out at "Order Processing". I am getting restless.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:22 am to flyAU
Apparently DJI direct orders are shipping in just a few weeks now. When did it say your Newegg order would ship?
I love this damn thing, been flying it every chance I get. Flying it around my house is finally getting kinda boring though, I try to plan the weekend around going somewhere new and interesting to fly.
I love this damn thing, been flying it every chance I get. Flying it around my house is finally getting kinda boring though, I try to plan the weekend around going somewhere new and interesting to fly.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 7:24 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:24 am to Dam Guide
Newegg comes from DJI direct so they said ship date is now the 20th. I had figured that B & H order would have been the same type of ordering as Newegg but that is not correct.
I am going to South Padre Island on the 30th, Tucson the week after and San Diego the week after that. If I do not have this damn thing for those trips i will be very unhappy.
I am going to South Padre Island on the 30th, Tucson the week after and San Diego the week after that. If I do not have this damn thing for those trips i will be very unhappy.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:32 pm to flyAU
So I bugged the poor newegg customer chat person enough that he sent this to DJI and copied me
I will be getting a faulty Mavic now I am guessing
quote:
Hello Marketplace Seller, We have a customer requesting an order status update.
I have included the customer in this email notification and their order details are listed below. Customer#******* Sales order#****** Could you please ship out the package as soon as you can? It's been quite a while.
Please reply directly to the customer with updates as soon as possible.
Thank you,
Newegg Customer Service
I will be getting a faulty Mavic now I am guessing
Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:00 pm to flyAU
We've enjoyed ours. My youngest (15) has really taken to it. We went out to the hayfield lot on campus and got a few pictures and videos while he was playing around with It. We took it up to 250 feet and then he got nervous and brought it back down.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 8:03 pm
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