Can we discuss MS crushing the MBpro today?

Price is steep, I'd probably rather go the surface pro route.

But I don't think you can go wrong with either.

I can only dream.

For what you get, the price is very fair. (and I'm only assuming what you get since specs were only discussed in a broad sense). It's the Surface that I've been wanting all along. But if you're just gonna browse and take notes and watch videos, it's obviously overkill.

I think i'd still prefer my current setup, which is MBP for everyday use and SP3 for travel and as a backup laptop.

I still wouldn't want to use MS for most things.

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You aren't going to want the bare bones system so I imagine the price is going to be a good bit higher for the system you want.

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That was my question.. is it 1500 for the i7 with 16gb of ram the high end discrete gpu and what 1tb of ssd ?

If so then hell yes.

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$1500 too much for that kind of power to portability ratio for this board?

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I could maybe swing the $1500 but that's for the i5 with 8gb ram. Did you see what the price was for the i7 and 16gig of ram was? ... Yea, $2500.
Fooooook that.

I don't know if that will necessarily be the case here. What I'm expecting/hoping is that every model with have the i7 (only the i7 was mentioned), and the differences will be RAM and SSD capacity. And since this is being advertised as a Surface Pro on steroids, so it's difficult to envision 4GB of RAM being the starting capacity. I'm thinking base model is i7/8GB/128 or 256GB SSD, with 16GB/512+ offerings. Even if it's i5, no big deal.

Ah, I see it on the store. The most disappointing thing is you have to spend $1899 to get the dedicated GPU, so I stand corrected. The $1899 model would be the minimum I'd want. When they were talking about it on stage, mentioning the dGPU, i7, PCIe SSD, I was thinking it's gonna cost $2,000. Out of my budget.

Yeah the way I see it, depending on your use, the sensible choices are bare minimum Surface Pro, An i5/8GB Surface Pro, the i5/dGPU Surface Book, or the all-out i7/16GB/dGPU Surface Book. The jump from the i5 to i7 in the Surface Book is not worth $200 alone (not that the i7/512/16 is worth the 600 leap from there, but if you want something more than the $1899 model, make it count). People think those mobile U-series i7s are so much better than the i5 counterpart, but they really aren't.

How do you think the surface book pro compares to the VAIO Z Canvas that you made a thread about ?

Their i7 offering is 3k it looked like. Is the 45w i7 chip more powerful than the i7 going in the surface book ? Fair apples to apples compare?

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How do you think the surface book pro compares to the VAIO Z Canvas that you made a thread about ?

Their i7 offering is 3k it looked like. Is the 45w i7 chip more powerful than the i7 going in the surface book ? Fair apples to apples compare?

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It's a fair enough comparison. The i7 in that VAIO is significantly faster than the i7s you'll find in the surface, Macbook pro, etc. But that CPU has no business being in a tablet. I'd buy any of the Surface models (Pro and Book) before considering the VAIO.

And again, the i7 in the Surface compared to its i5 counterpart is not, by any stretch of the imagination, worth the extra money. They are literally the same chip, with a difference of 1MB of L3 cache and a couple hundred MHz base clock. Both are dual-core, both have hyperthreading. The performance difference amounts to maybe 10% at best. Spending extra specifically for the i7 is really foolish.