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Can this be done? Projector for outdor use that can connect to live TV wirelessly?

Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:14 am
I have no clue about this stuff, so I apologize in advance for sounding like I'm ignorant, because I definitely am.

I'm interested in setting up a projector to use outside on my back deck to watch movies and live sporting events. I have access to power, but do not have any realistic way of running cords out to the porch to connect to the projector to run live video, without literally connecting an HDMI cable to my inside receiver and rolling it out onto the floor and out to the deck and under the door like s savage.

Now...maybe that's not even necessary and I'm explaining it wrong for all I know.

But I'm picturing a projector that can wirelessly access live TV via some sort of dongle or something attached to my inside system...but I'm not sure if any of that is real!

The projector would be well within my wifi range sitting on my patio table facing a large open brick wall about 8-10 feet away.

So...is this possible? Are there projectors available that can wirelessly access live video?

Keep in mind, I'm still happily buying cable and still have Tivo boxes...so I have no clue about Amazon Fire sticks or Apple Tv or any of that. Only streaming I do is Netflix and Amazon Prime and I'm almost always doing that via my Tivo boxes on my phone.If an answer involves that, please explain that as well if you can.

Thanks a ton for any info!
Posted by BabySam
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:15 am to
I didn't look too in-depth for these options, but I know there were projectors with the capabilities to be streamed to. Expected to work on home wifi with use of app....sorry i don't have any particulars...
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:18 am to
Hook a roku or chromecast up to the projector. You wont have "live" TV, but you can watch all of the sporting events live
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:19 am to
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I didn't look too in-depth for these options, but I know there were projectors with the capabilities to be streamed to. Expected to work on home wifi with use of app....sorry i don't have any particulars...


Yeah, for a novice it would SEEM like this would be a thing, but the truth is that it feels like 9 times out of 10 I find myself looking for something only to find out I made up the thing's capabilities in my head and it doesn't really exist!

There may be something like this out there, I'm just not sure I'd know what to look for...and I've looked a bit. Hoping someone can go, "Yeah...what you need is XYZ."
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:19 am to
depends on your current service provider for TV and the channel you want to watch. But can do a lot. Just download the network app to firestick, roku, etc..., log in through your service provider account, then stream away. Some network force you to pay for their subscription though(CBS)
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 11:21 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:22 am to
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Hook a roku or chromecast up to the projector. You wont have "live" TV, but you can watch all of the sporting events live




What's all that now?

How would I catch live sporting events like this?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:25 am to
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depends on your current service provider for TV and the channel you want to watch. But can do a lot. Just download the network app to firestick, roku, etc..., log in through your service provider account, then stream away. Some network force you to pay for their subscription though(CBS)


Ok...I think I get this.

So since I have Cox, I'd download the network ap and put in my login info there, and them stream that though a firestick or roku ow whatever to the projector? this may be a dumb question, but form what would I be streaming? My phone I guess?

And would I need a projector that can, what, connect via bluetooth to my phone or something?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:33 am to
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So since I have Cox, I'd download the network ap and put in my login info there, and them stream that though a firestick or roku ow whatever to the projector? this may be a dumb question, but form what would I be streaming? My phone I guess?

And would I need a projector that can, what, connect via bluetooth to my phone or something?


FWIW, some service providers have their own apps for certain devices, so check that first. For instance, Xfinity has an app for Roku's. you get everything you would get on your box.

you download lets say espn app to roku. when you click on it, its going to ask you for your service provider login. then you are good to go to watch their live or stored content available

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this may be a dumb question, but form what would I be streaming? My phone I guess?
You said you had wifi there. connect to your home's wifi.

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And would I need a projector that can, what, connect via bluetooth to my phone or something?

connect roku, firestick, etc... to the HDMI on Projector
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:48 am to
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NYCAuburn


I appreciate you taking the time...sorry I'm not versed in this.

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you download lets say espn app to roku. when you click on it, its going to ask you for your service provider login. then you are good to go to watch their live or stored content available


This stuff is foreign to me, because I have not cut the cord so I have never looked into Roku or any of the stick things. I have no clue how they work. What do they even do? Is it sort of "casting" the source to another device? Like Roku would be the "thing" that is casting a channel to the projector? Is it 2 pieces...like a dongle and a receiver? One part attached to the inside receiver and the other to the projector?

Yeah...I'm sorry. I'm sure this all sounds idiotic, but I'm sure it's simple enough if I had any background in this stuff.
Posted by Styxion
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 11:52 am to
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Like Roku would be the "thing" that is casting a channel to the projector? Is it 2 pieces


no, it is one piece that is basically a mini computer that will stream directly using your wifi. the Roku is the receiver, there is nothing else to connect to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:06 pm to
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no, it is one piece that is basically a mini computer that will stream directly using your wifi. the Roku is the receiver, there is nothing else to connect to


So the Roku is like a box? Is it not connected to anything? Does it have a hard drive on it to record stuff? And then it streams content using my wifi? Wouldn't the projector in this case need something to catch the stream...or are they all wifi capable or whatever?
Posted by Styxion
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

o the Roku is like a box? Is it not connected to anything? Does it have a hard drive on it to record stuff? And then it streams content using my wifi? Wouldn't the projector in this case need something to catch the stream...or are they all wifi capable or whatever?



It's connected to power, that's it. It has a hard drive, but it's for apps. To put it in a simple way, it's the equivalent of a phone. You put apps on it, and stream through the apps. It will plug directly into the HDMI in on the projector. It's the same as watching ESPN on your phone.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:13 pm to
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It's connected to power, that's it. It has a hard drive, but it's for apps. To put it in a simple way, it's the equivalent of a phone. You put apps on it, and stream through the apps. It will plug directly into the HDMI in on the projector


Makes sense. And I'm assuming that it will access my wifi out connected to the projector and that'll be how it streams content? Pretty cool.

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It's the same as watching ESPN on your phone.


Is it not obvious I don't do that?

ETA: Are all the Roku things the same? Looking at them now and it looks like there are multiple ones. any suggestions?
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Styxion
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Are all the Roku things the same?


Of course the newer versions will be better and faster than the old ones. In the same way, the boxes will be better than the sticks since they are able to have more processing power. I have one of the original sticks and I have no problems with it.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Of course the newer versions will be better and faster than the old ones. In the same way, the boxes will be better than the sticks since they are able to have more processing power. I have one of the original sticks and I have no problems with it.


Makes sense...thanks all who chimed in. Big help.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:07 pm to
I see its been addressed but I will clarify with some photos as well


Streaming devices are similar to these




They come in varying shapes and sizes. different upgrades as far as processors, quality of picture, headphones, etc... but they all do they same thing in each's lineup as far as what you are looking for.

They plug directly into your TV, Projector, etc...HDMI port or via and HDMI cable(again all just depending on the model) then to a power source, USB, Outlet, etc....


They work similarly to a smart phone. They have download app sections/stores, where you select all the apps you want. Like netflix, hulu, CBS, ESPN, HBO, etc....


Some apps are free, most require some sort of subscription either directly(netflix, hulu, cbs) some you just need a cable or satellite tv service.

If the app requires a cable or satellite service, once you select the app for the first time it will go through one of a few methods(login info, go to a webpage and enter code, etc...) to authenticate that you have subscriptions to those services.

once all logged in, choose the app for what you want to watch and you are streaming.


This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Can this be done?



Easily... you need a VERY BRIGHT lumens projector to pull it off or it really needs to be dark outside. 1080P streams nicely - 4K is still too expensive and wifi streaming is almost impossible. I've had an outdoor projector poolside party and it looks fantastic. I may do another this year if the weather is right. Also, invite your neighbors so they don't think you're a nuisance assuming you're going to be throwing an outdoor party. Some of the LED high lumen projectors are low cost but don't embarrass yourself buying a cheap arse projector and expecting drive in movie theatre functionality.

Also for streaming. I own both an Amazon 4K cube and an Apple TV. i love Alexa commands but the Apple TV is buttery smooth and most important can stream ESPN app with up to 4 picture in picture. I project 101" and watch 4 games at once or 1 big game in (3) different angles. Amazon does not support multi PIP.

Good luck and plan at least a week ahead especially if you invite people.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:14 pm to
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Some of the LED high lumen projectors are low cost but don't embarrass yourself buying a cheap arse projector and expecting drive in movie theatre functionality.



Not sure what you mean as far as cheap, but I have used several sub $750 projectors outside and they worked just fine. Not going to work in full daylight, but once its dusk, you are good to go. screen plays an important role
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:18 pm to
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Easily... you need a VERY BRIGHT lumens projector to pull it off or it really needs to be dark outside.


My plan was for this to be an evening thing, not during the day. But if it's bright enough, could it really work during the day? I would not have even tried it.

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Good luck and plan at least a week ahead especially if you invite people.


This was just something I've wanted to look into for a few years and figured I'd go to the right place to ask questions! It's going to start being not as hot soon, so my patio will not be a deathtrap to be on...and when it's nice out the space screams for a TV set up. I've never wanted an actual TV there, and figured a projector that could make use of the large wall space would be the better bet. Just needed to figure a way to watch live sports as that would probably be the biggest thing I'd do out there during football season.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Not sure what you mean as far as cheap


They are selling some in the sub $200 ranger that claim crazy specs. I agree that around the $750 range will get a good projector to do the job. I also agree about the dusk thing. My comment was more geared toward outdoor lighting and where's it's positioned. No one wants to watch in pitch black or where it could be a safety concern - just use a high lumen projector and be careful where you set up the screen versus lighting is all. I love outdoor projecting when the weather allows.
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