re: Can Someone Here Explain The Outrage Over This Internet Privacy Bill?

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I don't think you appreciate how damaging seemingly innocuous information can be. Being embarrassed should be the least of our concerns. We are monitored, tracked, judged, and scored based on our data. You are linked to your extended family. You or your kids may be denied insurance coverage, or denied acceptance to a school, or denied a loan, or turned down for a job, just based on a scored assigned to you and your family by one of thousands of nameless data broker companies. Maybe you are accused of a crime you didn't commit, but the DA assembles a jury of people who scored as very likely to say you're guilty? And guess what? Your identity is now associated with the phrase "donkey porn".

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Again, I hear you and I agree with you, on principle. But at the end of the day, I really don't give 1 single frick. This isn't going to happen. If everyone's credit score, insurance coverage, school acceptance, etc. were all seemingly tied to this VERY unimportant information; well, none of us would have credit, insurance or kids in school.
That just ain't happenin'.

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And guess what? Your identity is now associated with the phrase "donkey porn".

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Laughable. I'd absolutely LOVE to go to an interview and have the interviewer ask me why my name was tied to Donkey Porn. I'd giggle, explain that's absurd and instantly want to go have a beer with the guy after I nailed the rest of the interview based on my talent and ability.

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If you don't mind and don't think it impacts your life, that's fine. I just ask that you try to understand the implications here. You don't have to be vigilant, but I wish you would be glad that others remain vigilant for you.

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I can support that.

Not everyone can pick their ISP (only one choice), they can choose their search engine.

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Your ISP knows what sites you visit, how often you visit them, when you wake up, where you shop, your financial info, where your kids go to school, etc. This issue should go beyond party affiliation.

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Fortunately unlike Google, Facebook, etc., my ISP is not in the tank for the liberal progressive agenda.

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While I agree with you on principle, I literally wake up not giving a frick about this stuff. If someone wanted to release that my kids go to school X, that I work at place Y and that I go to site Z for porn - knock yourself the frick out. You could've just asked me and I would've told you all of that info face to face, like a god damn man. Now, I think the people that should be worried are the people doing weird shite like donkey porn sites so maybe they have reason to be embarrassed?

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What happens when your company buys your internet history, then fires you for visiting certain sites, or having applied to a job at another company?

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Would using an incognito tab when browsing keep your info from the ISP?

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No. Incognito only hides your browsing history from yourself.

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Fortunately unlike Google, Facebook, etc., my ISP is not in the tank for the liberal progressive agenda.

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Oh my god, are you serious? Can you even define the "liberal progressive agenda" as it pertains to this issue? Or can you define it at all? It's just a buzzphrase that tries to make it sound like everyone left of center has some insidious "agenda".

How do you know the political leanings of your ISP anyway? Or of their employees who have access to this information?

Don't make "the liberals" the boogeyman here. It's clear that the conservatives that don't give a shite about privacy. "If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear". That's bullshite, and it's Fascism. There's your boogeyman.

Conservatives always harp against "big government", and then just cut regulations and programs and call it job well done. It's not the cost or the number of laws that make government "big", it's the power. Cutting rules like this gives the government much, much more power over us.

Now, if they have a plan to strengthen our privacy as a replacement to this, I'm all ears and I'll support it. But as of now, the Repubs can suck my dick for selling people on giving up their privacy in the name of "competition". Google and Facebook treat our data as a valuable asset and guard it closely. Your ISP can only make money by selling it. IMO, like human trafficking, data trafficking should not be an acceptable practice.

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Would using an incognito tab when browsing keep your info from the ISP?

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no. it's only meant to protect the history from other users of the same device. let's say, other users who use the same laptop or pc as you. your isps can get the data anyways. The only way to ensure your isp doesn't sell that stuff is to ensure they don't get any to begin with. the way to ensure that is to use a vpn like ivacy, express or anything you can find as you google. vpns let you change your ip and encryp the data so your isp wouldn't know what you're googling. if they wouldn't know that, they wouldn't be able to sell it either.

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Fortunately unlike Google, Facebook, etc., my ISP is not in the tank for the liberal progressive agenda.

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It doesn't have to do with left or right side of the things. once the law gets passed, it'll lift the moral obligations with it, because it'll be legal. isps would have the right but no user would be able to restrict them in case they decide to sell it all to, say, nielsen or kantar one fine morning.

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They believe that less regulation = more competition and lower prices in all cases.

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In general a lot of the regulations we have are limiting factors to competition. But those aren't the regulations that the corporate lobbies are going to push to be removed, just the ones that cost them money to follow. I'm sure the big ISPs would fight the feds hard if they tried to deregulate their regional monopolies and nullify things like state laws they bought blocking local municipalities from building their own broadband infrastructure.

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not only did republicans sell us out to our ISPs, they are also attacking net neutrality. while net neutrality is flawed bill, its better than nothing. the result now:
isp will collect your data
isp will throttle connections to vpn so it makes it harder (or practically impossible) to hide your info from said isp

we need a technological revolt

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Who is forcing you to use the service?