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AT&T Fiber, Wifi signal strength and wifi calling

Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:01 am
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:01 am
My family just moved to a new home that was set up for AT&T Fiber. We got the service installed and are currently getting about 200 mbps download and upload as opposed to the 1 gig ceiling.
I never expected full ceiling strength, especially over wifi, but that raises my first question....is 20% particularly low, especially 10 feet from the router?

2nd question. Even though we are getting much higher speeds here than at the old house with Spectrum, WIFI calling here is pretty much a disaster. Dropped calls, missed calls, failed calls are the norm.

This would not be an issue except that we live in a doughnut hole of cell service despite being in Metro Atlanta.

TIA
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:16 am to
To answer your first question the most you’re going to get over WiFi is 200-500mpbs.

This not only depends on your router, but also the modem built into your devices running the speed test. Any cell phone in the iPhone 6 age range will be doing good to pull 200 mpbs.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78081 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:19 am to
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WIFI calling here is pretty much a disaster.


Doesn't ATT offer a free LTE microcell for locations with poor service?

You don't want wifi calling. Its shite. You want that little black box that transmogrifies WiFi into LTE. We have one from tmobile that is the tits.

Also what router are you using? You may want to look into one of the mesh systems if you're having WiFi issues.

If you're 10' from the router and having issues, it sounds like interference.

Download 'wifi analyzer' and 'wifi sweetspots' (if on android) and see what it tells you. This could be as easy as switching channels. Does it support both 2.4 and 5?
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 8:21 am
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
905 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:47 am to
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Doesn't ATT offer a free LTE microcell for locations with poor service? 


We have Verizon for cell. I know they have an extended, but I wonder about competitor issues.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:58 am to
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To answer your first question the most you’re going to get over WiFi is 200-500mpbs.


You sure about that? This is from an IPad Pro 10.5 from the other room measuring local lan data transfer.

Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27720 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:09 am to
i have 1000MB with AT&T fiber and was only getting 100-200 average. I finally purchased a google home mesh system, and the second i installed it, i was pulling 650-750MB.

If you have a 2 story house its a no brainer
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:45 am to
That’s impressive. I don’t know anything about the internals on the iPad Pro however. The 10.5 came out in 2017 I believe though so it should have no problem pulling closer to 1000 mpbs.

Obviously there are a ton of variables when discussing wireless speeds. There is no set answer. You also have to factor in ATT literally says they make no speed guarantees in the fine print. so the guy may have bad luck in the category.

I stand that he should reasonably expect 200-500 mpbs. Although he can bring that higher in the right circumstances.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:52 am to
I think there is a ton of wifi chipsets that only support a certain peak bandwidth so at&t has to state that.

I'm sure if I picked up an older Ipad and tried the same speedtest I would only get 200-300mb down.

Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:31 am to
I’ve been hardwired into att modem via cat7 and only pull 700-800 mpbs to a Gigabit lan port desktop. While trying multiple Speedtest services and servers.

Which are great numbers but I’ve never been able to get the 940 mpbs which ATT says is “typical”

But again going to WiFi. There are too many variables to talk about. It goes back to Collision detection vs Collision avoidance. Of course there are always general rules to help speeds out but some trial and error is needed to achieve maximum WiFi speeds.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16387 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Any cell phone in the iPhone 6 age range will be doing good to pull 200 mpbs.


If that is all you are getting, yo may have some sort of interference.

I have 300Down/30up with Cox and I am getting 334D/31.3U on my iPhone 6.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:29 am to
What causes wi-fi interference/collision? And how can it be determined then fixed?
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:58 am to
I quit reading the uninformed answers and will just let you know that you just simply need a better router to add into your system..Never rely on anything given to you from an ISP
Posted by helluvaday
Member since Jun 2018
443 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:14 pm to
An area with a large number of different Wi-Fi networks may suffer from poor signal strength because of all the conflicting transmissions. This may be the case in office buildings or apartment complexes. Try switching to a different transmission such as the 5.0 network.

Also, sometimes household appliances operating on the same frequency as your router could slow down your Wi-Fi. Check to see whether your connection is stronger when appliances such as cordless phones, microwaves, and security camera are off.

Wireless speeds are a gamble and can be affected BY A LOT, not just your equipment
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:49 pm to
A good router these days will auto negotiate for the best open channels
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:35 pm to
So what is the list of third party routers AT&T will let you use with the fiber instead of theirs?
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:49 pm to
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routers AT&T will let you use with the fiber instead of theirs?


any router will work with their equipment..I use a Nighthawk AC-1900 and it covers 2500sq feet fine..I wire things through the attic and handheld devices alternate on the 2/5 frequencies..Every now and then I log in and check to see how much interference is around and change channels if needed
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:58 pm to
So you plug the cat5 from their optics box right into the wan interface of your own router?
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 6:14 am to
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plug the cat5 from their optics box right into the wan interface of your own router


I set my router to AP mode too, so its essentially just passing the signal..
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 6:50 am to
It’s called bridge mode, and your passing the public IP to your WAN interface.

Just want to make sure you are giving correct advice. You still need their router to handle the first handshake.

Certainly you are not using a AP past their WAN port as there would be no routing or even packet filtering.
Posted by NotGrammarKnotsi
Member since Jan 2018
314 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:00 am to
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It’s called bridge mode


nope, I'm using the modem/router for DHCP

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Just want to make sure you are giving correct advice


lol...You can kindly gfy..

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You still need their router to handle the first handshake.



already covered that, douche

quote:

Certainly you are not using a AP past their WAN port as there would be no routing or even packet filtering.




if you would comprehend what you've read, I go to the WAN on the router, which is essentially an AP



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