re: Apple responds to Antitrust suit...

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Bc Apple won’t allow the RCS from Android. They just use old arse SMS.

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Apple is integrating RCS with plans to release it this year. This was announced last year. This is why this lawsuit is pretty dumb over it. I suspect it will be in the usually big iOS updates with release of a new phone in September like usual. May start seeing it in June/July when the dev and public betas start rolling out.

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No, like telling Apple to open up iMessaging due to the "social stigma" it inflicts on "certain demographics"...

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From what I’m reading you’re talking about two different things. 1) is green bubbles 2) sms vs rcs

Apple can adopt RCS and still have green bubbles. It’s the sms that’s the issue for me. If Apple can not adopt another tech outside of sms then yes, they need to open up iMessage.

Apple loyalist have been conditioned to think this is some kind of competition where they win a prize if at the end of the day apple wins "the phone wars". This is a phenomenon Freud calls narcissism of minor differences. You see it in Xbox v. Playstation, Ford v. Chevy, how to boil crawfish , etc., etc. Apple loyalist seem more susceptible to this phenomenon because they are invested in the "ecosystem" of one company where android users are free to fill their needs from various companies. Samsung phone, Sony heaphones, LG TV, Lenovo laptop, Nvidia Shield for streaming, Alexa/Google personal assistant, etc. These threads where apple loyalist argue against an objective and universal consumer win in phone number to phone number messaging interoperability or ignore how the rest of the DOJ case is to benefit apple users just reinforces how deep that narcissism of minor differences runs and how good apples marketing department is.

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Apple loyalist have been conditioned to think this is some kind of competition where they win a prize if at the end of the day apple wins "the phone wars". This is a phenomenon Freud calls narcissism of minor differences. You see it in Xbox v. Playstation, Ford v. Chevy, how to boil crawfish , etc., etc. Apple loyalist seem more susceptible to this phenomenon because they are invested in the "ecosystem" of one company where android users are free to fill their needs from various companies. Samsung phone, Sony heaphones, LG TV, Lenovo laptop, Nvidia Shield for streaming, Alexa/Google personal assistant, etc. These threads where apple loyalist argue against an objective and universal consumer win in phone number to phone number messaging interoperability or ignore how the rest of the DOJ case is to benefit apple users just reinforces how deep that narcissism of minor differences runs and how good apples marketing department is.

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You mean capitalism? There is tons of alternatives, lots of options. This is where Android only users just end up sounding like whiny babies. You guys are getting your way, Apple is adopting it because China is making them. Your argument is on the same side as China. Screw companies having a way to compete, lets force them into government demanded interoperability. Most of the world has moved away from phone number to phone number messaging. The regulatory aspect is still met through SMS/MMS messaging.

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Discord for a bunch of other shite, snapchat for friends, facebook messenger for family and old people. I rarely even open text messaging at this point. I even had it blocked for a long time and used a google voice number for texting back when they required you to pay extra for text messaging.

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So your argument is to make everyone use multiple platforms?

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The point was, the government ALREADY tells companies how they have to operate on many different levels. How is this any different? (hint: it isn't)

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At what point does it become different for you? Some of us don't like seeing the government use it's power to see how far they can go into demanding control over people and companies. Something like this where there is substantial evidence of competing alternatives does not strike me as ok.

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I didn't say I liked it, I just said it's current reality in that industry.

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I agree with that

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Do you think the Biden administration arguing social stigma as a basis for an antitrust lawsuit isn't different?

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The basis of their argument or it's validity isn't the point I'm refuting.

The point I'm refuting is YOUR's, when you commented on government interference in this industry, which, as I've pointed out, is significant.

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This doesn't work. Messaging involves you and another person. I can't simply use what I want, because in order for the other person to get it they have to be using it as well. Doesn't matter what the rest of the world is doing. In the US phone number to phone number is the primary means of messaging. If everyone wants to agree we are switching off phone number to phone number messaging then fine, I'm in. But until then, parity should be restored and thats objectively beneficial for everyone with a cellphone.

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It does work, billions of people are making it work quite well. It's just not convenient for you. You want to legislate convivence.